They got revokeable permission apparently.

are there any open source fps that are similar to cs, as in somewhat realistic theme and not like xonotic

Or the modders violated the rights given to them.

You'll never get that. You could do all kinds of shit, and they couldn't do anything about it anymore.

urban terror tried to do the whole CT vs T theme but the movement is much closer to an arena shooter.

Tell them to fuck off, and release it anyway.

They "gave them 8 years"? What do you mean by that exactly? There was a time limit they were working under that I'm not aware of? I never said their side is 100% true. I'm sure there are some nuances. But as said. Valve is notorious for not communicating so being blindsided by them doesn't sound strange. And mate. Just because someone believes something doesn't mean there has to be some truth to it. Some people believe the eart is flat. You think there's any truth to that? Someone "hacking" files or systems doesn't always mean what you think it does. Naughty Dog "hacked" PS1 to create crash bandicoot. Just means they gained knowledge in how the hardware works. Not that their game only works on "hacked" hardware. So until I hear anything from valve. I'm inclined to believe the mod team. Based on valves previous interactions with their community.

Corporations are not your friend

less that there was a time limit, but it was a project that was worked on for a long time, and had on and off discussions throughout the development cycle of the game > Someone “hacking” files or systems doesn’t always mean what you think it does. Naughty Dog “hacked” PS1 to create crash bandicoot. Just means they gained knowledge in how the hardware works. Not that their game only works on “hacked” hardware. they point out theirselves in August 2021, that they were using a solutionthat breaks Valves TOS before later replacing it later in 2022. Its evidence that there was on and off times where what theyre doing was skirting what valve says was okay. > So until I hear anything from valve. I’m inclined to believe the mod team. Based on valves previous interactions with their community. you believe the mod team despite there are other games who have successfully worked with valve and actually have fully recreated the entire game they made and actively sell on their storefront for actual money? again im not saying valve are in the clear, but the devs clearly says it so themselves they have throughout the process, broke the TOS and you're still inclined to believe that theyre not hiding anything else? I don't see it as a black and white issue, rather a situation that I can't trust anyone because only one side of the story has been said, by a side that doesn't necessarily have the cleanest history.

Cool. You can believe whatever you want. I'm still going to give the mod team the benefit of the doubt until I hear anything from Valve for the reasons I've already mentioned.