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Genshin Impact Will Soon Require Age Verification in the United States

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    The analogy _**only works if you believe gambling does the same relative harm**_ as porn. That is the problem I have with their terrible attempt at an analogy. Not only does it imply it's comparable, it has to be for the analogy to work as intended.
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    ❌ Incorrect Two things that cause harm can both be bad even if they don't cause the *same amount* of harm. Evidence: we should restrict the sale of both cigarettes and vapes to children. Vapes unequivocally cause less harm than cigarettes, and despite that, they should face the same legal age restrictions.
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      The analogy _**only works if you believe gambling does the same relative harm**_ as porn. That is the problem I have with their terrible attempt at an analogy. Not only does it imply it's comparable, it has to be for the analogy to work as intended.
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      ❌ Incorrect An analogy is not an equation. Porn is harmful to children, and access should be age restricted to the fullest extent possible without interfering with the rights of grown adults. Gambling is harmful for children, and should be age restricted to the fullest extent possible without interfering with the rights of grown adults. They don't cause the ***same amount of harm,*** but a movie that features hardcore sex should be rated AO just like a game that incorporates gambling should be rated M.
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        this law is the result of bad parenting. if parents would parent, nothing like this would be needed
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        Wow. The world sucks then, doesn't it?
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          You should know better than to assume that the average Lemmy user understands analogies
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          Haha yeah I've picked up on that. Oh well
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            ❌ Incorrect An analogy is not an equation. Porn is harmful to children, and access should be age restricted to the fullest extent possible without interfering with the rights of grown adults. Gambling is harmful for children, and should be age restricted to the fullest extent possible without interfering with the rights of grown adults. They don't cause the ***same amount of harm,*** but a movie that features hardcore sex should be rated AO just like a game that incorporates gambling should be rated M.
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            You're explicity suggesting the thing is not suitable for kids, while also explicity calling something that isn't gambling, gambling. That's the point Cosmetic lootboxes are suitable for kids. Unlike porn or gambling.
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              You're explicity suggesting the thing is not suitable for kids, while also explicity calling something that isn't gambling, gambling. That's the point Cosmetic lootboxes are suitable for kids. Unlike porn or gambling.
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              It's not gambling, it's just a thing you can spend real money on to have a chance of getting one of several rewards, with the best possible rewards having the lowest possible chances Oh wait that's literally the fucking definition of gambling
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                > If this bad parenting happens often enough to be a real problem, then whining into the wind that "no one has any common sense anymore," or whatever you're doing, isn't a solution. of course thats not a solution. but what can you do? lawmakers wont make laws that make the parents responsible for their negligence. sometimes it's not even intentional negligence, but that they don't even know what should they do, and how can that be done > I do blame the game a little because it's a game that really, really, really wants you to spend money on diamond gem funbucks. that's fair, I do too. I also blame all the commercial social networks, if I can call them that way > You don't want to show your ID even though we all do that for alcohol—fine. just let me remind you that that happens offline, and it is provable if copies are not preserved. normally you just show it and that's it. > That is, unless you would like to spearhead this global movement to teach underprivileged parents how to configure their phones? if someone cannot properly configure their phones, then they need to be made liable for the consequences their negligence causes.
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                > but what can you do? lawmakers wont make laws ... You elect lawmakers. > just let me remind you that that happens offline, and it is provable if copies are not preserved. Fascinating. > if someone cannot properly configure their phones, then they need to be made liable So, this is exactly the problem I have with you and the other person. It's this contempt you have for your fellow people. It's extremely selfish. This isn't how you talk to your neighbors. You're not getting invited to any cookouts or block parties with this attitude. If you and I can agree that children shouldn't be in casinos, then they shouldn't be allowed *into* the casino. I am open to your suggestions.
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                  Regardless of who's responsible, children should not be gambling. Why is everyone magnifying "responsibility"? Scamming children is illegal and having them gamble is/should also be illegal. I'll also link you https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/14325340. > Children can even upload patent's ids 1. We don't even know they're gonna use IDs to verify. Steam just uses a birthdate dropdown to comply with legal things. 2. No, it takes a lot more carelessness for children to be able to find parents' IDs in the wild.
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                  Scamming children is illegal. Solution isn't banning children or requiring id to compromise others' privacy too (who for example play without gambling). This whole thing is bs. 2. people store id in their phone most of the time.
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                    It's not gambling, it's just a thing you can spend real money on to have a chance of getting one of several rewards, with the best possible rewards having the lowest possible chances Oh wait that's literally the fucking definition of gambling
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                    By that logic all games with any random component is gambling... which would include pretty much every game ever published. If Diablo isn't gambling, then neither is genshin.
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