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Genshin Impact Will Soon Require Age Verification in the United States
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I'm old enough for any DOB check, yet I still lie.I get websites as little personally identifiable information as I possibly can. It takes [33 bits of personal info to narrow you down to one individual,](https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-DGB-16975) and I'm already open about the fact that I'm a white guy in my late twenties living in the north side of Wichita Kansas. That already narrows me down to one of like 50,000 people
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You should know better than to assume that the average Lemmy user understands analogies
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If you think cosmetic lootboxes are comparable to porn, you're too stupid for internet access and your handler should limit your screen time in the future until a cure is found for whatever thing is currently affecting you.The reading comprehension situation is crazy LaLuzDelSol does not think cosmetic loot boxes are comparable to porn. They were making an analogy, not an equation. "A is like B in that C" does not imply that A is just as good or bad as B, it means that they share *a* similarity. In this case, "putting 5 minutes of hardcore sex in an otherwise g-rated film" is like "incorporating gambling into an otherwise child friendly game," in that "even if the majority of the work is child friendly, the not-child-friendly aspects make the work as a whole not child-friendly."
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The reading comprehension situation is crazy LaLuzDelSol does not think cosmetic loot boxes are comparable to porn. They were making an analogy, not an equation. "A is like B in that C" does not imply that A is just as good or bad as B, it means that they share *a* similarity. In this case, "putting 5 minutes of hardcore sex in an otherwise g-rated film" is like "incorporating gambling into an otherwise child friendly game," in that "even if the majority of the work is child friendly, the not-child-friendly aspects make the work as a whole not child-friendly."The analogy _**only works if you believe gambling does the same relative harm**_ as porn. That is the problem I have with their terrible attempt at an analogy. Not only does it imply it's comparable, it has to be for the analogy to work as intended.
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The analogy _**only works if you believe gambling does the same relative harm**_ as porn. That is the problem I have with their terrible attempt at an analogy. Not only does it imply it's comparable, it has to be for the analogy to work as intended.
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Two things that cause harm can both be bad even if they don't cause the *same amount* of harm.
Evidence: we should restrict the sale of both cigarettes and vapes to children. Vapes unequivocally cause less harm than cigarettes, and despite that, they should face the same legal age restrictions.
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The analogy _**only works if you believe gambling does the same relative harm**_ as porn. That is the problem I have with their terrible attempt at an analogy. Not only does it imply it's comparable, it has to be for the analogy to work as intended. Incorrect
An analogy is not an equation. Porn is harmful to children, and access should be age restricted to the fullest extent possible without interfering with the rights of grown adults. Gambling is harmful for children, and should be age restricted to the fullest extent possible without interfering with the rights of grown adults. They don't cause the ***same amount of harm,*** but a movie that features hardcore sex should be rated AO just like a game that incorporates gambling should be rated M.
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this law is the result of bad parenting. if parents would parent, nothing like this would be needed
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You should know better than to assume that the average Lemmy user understands analogies
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An analogy is not an equation. Porn is harmful to children, and access should be age restricted to the fullest extent possible without interfering with the rights of grown adults. Gambling is harmful for children, and should be age restricted to the fullest extent possible without interfering with the rights of grown adults. They don't cause the ***same amount of harm,*** but a movie that features hardcore sex should be rated AO just like a game that incorporates gambling should be rated M.
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You're explicity suggesting the thing is not suitable for kids, while also explicity calling something that isn't gambling, gambling. That's the point Cosmetic lootboxes are suitable for kids. Unlike porn or gambling.It's not gambling, it's just a thing you can spend real money on to have a chance of getting one of several rewards, with the best possible rewards having the lowest possible chances Oh wait that's literally the fucking definition of gambling
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> If this bad parenting happens often enough to be a real problem, then whining into the wind that "no one has any common sense anymore," or whatever you're doing, isn't a solution. of course thats not a solution. but what can you do? lawmakers wont make laws that make the parents responsible for their negligence. sometimes it's not even intentional negligence, but that they don't even know what should they do, and how can that be done > I do blame the game a little because it's a game that really, really, really wants you to spend money on diamond gem funbucks. that's fair, I do too. I also blame all the commercial social networks, if I can call them that way > You don't want to show your ID even though we all do that for alcohol—fine. just let me remind you that that happens offline, and it is provable if copies are not preserved. normally you just show it and that's it. > That is, unless you would like to spearhead this global movement to teach underprivileged parents how to configure their phones? if someone cannot properly configure their phones, then they need to be made liable for the consequences their negligence causes.> but what can you do? lawmakers wont make laws ... You elect lawmakers. > just let me remind you that that happens offline, and it is provable if copies are not preserved. Fascinating. > if someone cannot properly configure their phones, then they need to be made liable So, this is exactly the problem I have with you and the other person. It's this contempt you have for your fellow people. It's extremely selfish. This isn't how you talk to your neighbors. You're not getting invited to any cookouts or block parties with this attitude. If you and I can agree that children shouldn't be in casinos, then they shouldn't be allowed *into* the casino. I am open to your suggestions.
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Regardless of who's responsible, children should not be gambling. Why is everyone magnifying "responsibility"? Scamming children is illegal and having them gamble is/should also be illegal. I'll also link you https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/14325340. > Children can even upload patent's ids 1. We don't even know they're gonna use IDs to verify. Steam just uses a birthdate dropdown to comply with legal things. 2. No, it takes a lot more carelessness for children to be able to find parents' IDs in the wild.
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It's not gambling, it's just a thing you can spend real money on to have a chance of getting one of several rewards, with the best possible rewards having the lowest possible chances Oh wait that's literally the fucking definition of gambling
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By that logic all games with any random component is gambling... which would include pretty much every game ever published. If Diablo isn't gambling, then neither is genshin.If you could spend real life money to get random loot drops in Diablo, you might have a point. You should really try to seek out other viewpoints. Literally every discussion about this topic overwhelmingly agrees that gacha games are gambling.
