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A forum for discussing and organizing recreational softball and baseball games and leagues in the greater Halifax area.

Is ActivityPub too complicated?

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    ![767e2ed4-8089-40ab-92a8-7fb2204b20bd-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1737616265042-767e2ed4-8089-40ab-92a8-7fb2204b20bd-image.png) I thought that if I entered a Fediverse address here, like '[@FrankM@nrw.social](https://community.nodebb.org/user/frankm%40nrw.social),' it would follow that user, and their posts would then appear in the corresponding category. But that's not happening. There's also no meaningful error message. The actor you see in the image probably appears because I entered an incorrect address. Does this feature need to be enabled on the Fediverse instance 'nrw.social'? Who can help?
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    Thank you [@rimu@piefed.ngrok.app](https://community.nodebb.org/user/rimu%40piefed.ngrok.app) , now it's getting clearer in my head. I have added "https://lemmy.world/c/technology" , actual status is pending. How long does this take? Is it an automatic process, or is it manually approved by an admin? So many questions...
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      Thank you [@rimu@piefed.ngrok.app](https://community.nodebb.org/user/rimu%40piefed.ngrok.app) , now it's getting clearer in my head. I have added "https://lemmy.world/c/technology" , actual status is pending. How long does this take? Is it an automatic process, or is it manually approved by an admin? So many questions...
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      [@FrankM](https://community.nodebb.org/user/frankm) Running into the same problem on my end (2 days and it seems my follow to any group actors is stuck). Did you try to follow a non-group account when you got the 'null' actor on your list too? I get the feeling it's related to our endless pending on lemmy communities and such
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        [@FrankM](https://community.nodebb.org/user/frankm) Running into the same problem on my end (2 days and it seems my follow to any group actors is stuck). Did you try to follow a non-group account when you got the 'null' actor on your list too? I get the feeling it's related to our endless pending on lemmy communities and such
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        [@arachnibot](https://community.nodebb.org/user/arachnibot) happy to take a closer look, since the category sync functionality should be working but might have broken in the interim during development. Can you let me know the Lemmy community you're trying to follow from your instance? Edit: same for you [@FrankM](https://community.nodebb.org/user/frankm)
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          [@arachnibot](https://community.nodebb.org/user/arachnibot) happy to take a closer look, since the category sync functionality should be working but might have broken in the interim during development. Can you let me know the Lemmy community you're trying to follow from your instance? Edit: same for you [@FrankM](https://community.nodebb.org/user/frankm)
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          [@julian](https://community.nodebb.org/user/julian) Thanks! Accidentally reset my database, but I was in the midst of trying the following group actors: anime@ani.social rpgmemes@ttrpg.network these two were my big tests, [@ttrpg@a.gup.pe](https://community.nodebb.org/user/ttrpg%40a.gup.pe) didn't seem to work too, but I forgot to re-test it after I manually took the null follow out from the database. Should also note that the first two managed to show up in my original /world when following from my admin account, so I'm fairly sure posts were federating in properly to that
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            [@julian](https://community.nodebb.org/user/julian) Thanks! Accidentally reset my database, but I was in the midst of trying the following group actors: anime@ani.social rpgmemes@ttrpg.network these two were my big tests, [@ttrpg@a.gup.pe](https://community.nodebb.org/user/ttrpg%40a.gup.pe) didn't seem to work too, but I forgot to re-test it after I manually took the null follow out from the database. Should also note that the first two managed to show up in my original /world when following from my admin account, so I'm fairly sure posts were federating in properly to that
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            The logic is a little tricky to get right because there's a set sequence of steps that needs to happen in order for the group sync to succeed. For example, between NodeBB and Lemmy: 1. NodeBB admin tries to follow a Lemmy community 1. NodeBB marks the follow as pending 1. Lemmy records NodeBB as a follower 1. Lemmy community tried to send an Accept back 1. NodeBB marks the follow as established. If steps 1-3 succeed but 4-5 fail, then posts might be sent to NodeBB, but NodeBB will silently drop them because they're not addressed to anyone it thinks is following the sender. [@freamon](https://community.nodebb.org/user/freamon) thanks for the heads up about lemmy's accept shenanigans, I'll take that into account... or maybe ask Felix about it. [@arachnibot](https://community.nodebb.org/user/arachnibot) [@FrankM](https://community.nodebb.org/user/frankm)
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              The logic is a little tricky to get right because there's a set sequence of steps that needs to happen in order for the group sync to succeed. For example, between NodeBB and Lemmy: 1. NodeBB admin tries to follow a Lemmy community 1. NodeBB marks the follow as pending 1. Lemmy records NodeBB as a follower 1. Lemmy community tried to send an Accept back 1. NodeBB marks the follow as established. If steps 1-3 succeed but 4-5 fail, then posts might be sent to NodeBB, but NodeBB will silently drop them because they're not addressed to anyone it thinks is following the sender. [@freamon](https://community.nodebb.org/user/freamon) thanks for the heads up about lemmy's accept shenanigans, I'll take that into account... or maybe ask Felix about it. [@arachnibot](https://community.nodebb.org/user/arachnibot) [@FrankM](https://community.nodebb.org/user/frankm)
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              [@julian](https://community.nodebb.org/user/julian) Got it! Restored my database last night, but yeah it seems even a re-follow didn't get much to my category actor (outside of manually federating a share from my old mastodon) Oh wait, I just realized I never shared the webfinger for the actor. mentioned below [@test@nodebb.arachnibot.com](https://community.nodebb.org/user/test%40nodebb.arachnibot.com)
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                [@julian](https://community.nodebb.org/user/julian) Got it! Restored my database last night, but yeah it seems even a re-follow didn't get much to my category actor (outside of manually federating a share from my old mastodon) Oh wait, I just realized I never shared the webfinger for the actor. mentioned below [@test@nodebb.arachnibot.com](https://community.nodebb.org/user/test%40nodebb.arachnibot.com)
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                I opened an issue on Lemmy's repo https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5354 The thing is, what is the actual end-result you're looking for? It sounds like you want stuff from a remote lemmy community to be sent to your NodeBB. If that's the case, you could just follow the community *as a user*. Search for `technology@lemmy.ml` (for example) in the search bar, and once you follow the community, you will start seeing those posts in your `/world` feed. The category synchronization options are for if you want to see a Lemmy community's posts in a category of your own. Might be that's what you want too. But at present Lemmy doesn't support it 🙂
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                  I opened an issue on Lemmy's repo https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5354 The thing is, what is the actual end-result you're looking for? It sounds like you want stuff from a remote lemmy community to be sent to your NodeBB. If that's the case, you could just follow the community *as a user*. Search for `technology@lemmy.ml` (for example) in the search bar, and once you follow the community, you will start seeing those posts in your `/world` feed. The category synchronization options are for if you want to see a Lemmy community's posts in a category of your own. Might be that's what you want too. But at present Lemmy doesn't support it 🙂
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                  @julian@community.nodebb.org Oh I think I get you? I Mainly wanted to sync remote group actors to a category for organizational purposes. In my exact case it would be to collect foreign group actors together so me and my pals can have a more conglomerated niche feed (i.e the games category has posts from local and remote groups sharing stuff about games). Sort of like mastodon's lists, but with cleaner organization. (if you need a more practical example let me know!) I've got lemmy instances working in my /world feed, so that's good news, at least. Though, it doesn't seem I can follow other nodebb categories with my testing ground either. (for instance, https://community.nodebb.org/category/30/activitypub responds with pending as well, even if the other actors are removed from the category's following requests) Thank you either way! I know activitypub support been a big goal of yours, so I really appreciate all the hard work!
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                    @julian@community.nodebb.org Oh I think I get you? I Mainly wanted to sync remote group actors to a category for organizational purposes. In my exact case it would be to collect foreign group actors together so me and my pals can have a more conglomerated niche feed (i.e the games category has posts from local and remote groups sharing stuff about games). Sort of like mastodon's lists, but with cleaner organization. (if you need a more practical example let me know!) I've got lemmy instances working in my /world feed, so that's good news, at least. Though, it doesn't seem I can follow other nodebb categories with my testing ground either. (for instance, https://community.nodebb.org/category/30/activitypub responds with pending as well, even if the other actors are removed from the category's following requests) Thank you either way! I know activitypub support been a big goal of yours, so I really appreciate all the hard work!
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                    [@arachnibot@nodebb.arachnibot.com](https://community.nodebb.org/user/arachnibot%40nodebb.arachnibot.com) said in [Is ActivityPub too complicated?](/post/https%3A%2F%2Fnodebb.arachnibot.com%2Fpost%2F16): > Mainly wanted to sync remote group actors to a category for organizational purposes. Yeah that's a great use case, and definitely what it ought to be used for. Let me look into nodebb-to-nodebb folllowing, that _definitely_ should be working!
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                      [@arachnibot@nodebb.arachnibot.com](https://community.nodebb.org/user/arachnibot%40nodebb.arachnibot.com) said in [Is ActivityPub too complicated?](/post/https%3A%2F%2Fnodebb.arachnibot.com%2Fpost%2F16): > Mainly wanted to sync remote group actors to a category for organizational purposes. Yeah that's a great use case, and definitely what it ought to be used for. Let me look into nodebb-to-nodebb folllowing, that _definitely_ should be working!
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                      [@julian](https://community.nodebb.org/user/julian) said in [Is ActivityPub too complicated?](/post/102887): > Let me look into nodebb-to-nodebb folllowing, that definitely should be working! Have you had a chance to verified that it is? Because I'm getting a never-ending Pending status when trying to sync to @testing-ground. Things federate fine, but without the syncing being established, they either don't get addressed to my instance, or are dumped into /world if I specifically reference someone on my site. And it's a little weird that they're not all ending up in /world, because I have an account that's following @testing-ground.
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                        [@Kichae](https://community.nodebb.org/user/kichae) I'm not seeing an issue (although I haven't done exhaustive testing) between my test instance and this site. Can you let me know one of your federating categories, so I can try to set up a sync?
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                          I tried to sync [@testing@chebucto.club](https://community.nodebb.org/user/testing%40chebucto.club) with @testing-ground.
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