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Microsoft’s next-gen Xbox has an AMD chip inside and is ‘not locked to a single store’

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    overload@sopuli.xyz
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    Broadly speaking, what are Xbox looking to do here? They optimise Windows for gaming and open up the console for other storefronts, then is it just a Steam device? They won't make money from Steam sales. Is this a cloud streaming device? Can you cloud stream games from other storefronts?
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      Broadly speaking, what are Xbox looking to do here? They optimise Windows for gaming and open up the console for other storefronts, then is it just a Steam device? They won't make money from Steam sales. Is this a cloud streaming device? Can you cloud stream games from other storefronts?
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      My guess is that this device will upsell you on GamePass constantly by making everything else possible but slightly annoying. MS might be the biggest video game publisher these days so there’s still plenty of leverage they have (buying ActiBlizz was huge and EA could be in trouble because FC 25 is not selling as well as FIFA). MS „lost” console war but this allows them to keep foot in the door and still exert some power over the platform.
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        My guess is that this device will upsell you on GamePass constantly by making everything else possible but slightly annoying. MS might be the biggest video game publisher these days so there’s still plenty of leverage they have (buying ActiBlizz was huge and EA could be in trouble because FC 25 is not selling as well as FIFA). MS „lost” console war but this allows them to keep foot in the door and still exert some power over the platform.
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        overload@sopuli.xyz
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        Yeah, maybe. The OS will be built around Game Pass like how SteamOS heavily incentivises you to use Steam.
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          We are headed for singularity.
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          • misk@sopuli.xyzM misk@sopuli.xyz
            > Saying that Microsoft treats backwards compatibility and support when they are forcing everyone to either pay for win10 support or join the win11 spyware mafia is a ludicrous statement btw. What are you using as a benchmark? Is there any OS that supports hardware or software this long? Not sure what spyware has to do with that. > Games with kernel-level anticheat do work on Linux, if the anticheat provider has done the work. Right now, most don't and actively stopped supporting Linux so saying that won't work ever is kind of a stretch. To an end user this is a Linux problem. Like, „Haiku OS can run all the games except developers don’t support it” won’t cut it as an explanation for why your games don’t work. > "Isn't good enough to replace windows" - here I am playing Modded games, path of exile, ffxiv, other FF games, cyberpunk, all PC monster Hunter games.... Your statement is false. You’re playing _some_ games. Same can be said about Switch yet everybody here acts like it is some huge failure. > I see nothing wrong with using a compatibility layer, it does the work of retrocompatibility alongside separating game environments, which is good for security. It is reverse engineered and with the level of complexity of Windows and Windows being a moving target it will never get there 100%. You have to make a conscious choice to lose access to some of your games when moving from Windows, and possibly lose access to some games that worked on Linux previously after you moved.
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            You said that the kernel anticheat problem will **never** be solved, I challenged that, not that this is seen as a Linux problem for the end user or not. I play all the games I want to play, no one wants to play **all** the games, there's no physical time to do so. Also, all of this is in the context of a tech savvy person. A tech savvy person can tweak almost all games to run properly nowadays... I do and I'm not THAT savvy.
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              You said that the kernel anticheat problem will **never** be solved, I challenged that, not that this is seen as a Linux problem for the end user or not. I play all the games I want to play, no one wants to play **all** the games, there's no physical time to do so. Also, all of this is in the context of a tech savvy person. A tech savvy person can tweak almost all games to run properly nowadays... I do and I'm not THAT savvy.
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              You know that I use Linux too and I know being able to run anything is just bs?
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                DirectX was always about displacing consoles. Alex St. John was talking about it in 1994. The task is mostly complete. Software has won. The surprise is that Microsoft really hasn't. They assumed they'd dominate whatever computer-ified market emerged... and that assumption is getting shakier every year. Windows suuucks. Linux is already a better way to run most programs and games. Even x86 is not a sure bet, and whatever ARM does to unseat it, that'll transfer smoothly to RISC-V. Everything old is new again. "The best Macintosh is an Amiga." The best WinTel box might be your phone.
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                Funny with ARM finally starting to rise beyond just mobile devices, accurate but very early
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                  douchebagmcswag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  Microsoft: we've given up on consoles. But don't tell our investors that
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                    Funny with ARM finally starting to rise beyond just mobile devices, accurate but very early
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                    It's already serious business in laptops and desktops. Just exclusively for Apple's awful little incompatible fiefdom.
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                      Microsoft: we've given up on consoles. But don't tell our investors that
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                      I think that’s plain to see by now, even for the investors. They still hold on to saying they’re going to release 10th gen hardware but that could be a PC by then. There are upsides to this for gamers potentially though as I doubt they’ll leave legacy Xbox games stranded and more people will get access to them.
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                      • misk@sopuli.xyzM misk@sopuli.xyz
                        You know that I use Linux too and I know being able to run anything is just bs?
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                        Your not technical savy I guess. It can run anything with some tinkering. You can use steamdb to see what games need to install with proton or ask the developer of indie games what library they use on windows. And there is solutions for everything. I never meet a game wi can't run (except when EA sabotaged their launcher to stop linux users)
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                          Your not technical savy I guess. It can run anything with some tinkering. You can use steamdb to see what games need to install with proton or ask the developer of indie games what library they use on windows. And there is solutions for everything. I never meet a game wi can't run (except when EA sabotaged their launcher to stop linux users)
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                          I appreciate your perseverance in the face of sourced facts.
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                          • misk@sopuli.xyzM misk@sopuli.xyz
                            I appreciate your perseverance in the face of sourced facts.
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                            I sée no source I give no source, why should o be the one doing the search to answer a windows troll ?
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                              I sée no source I give no source, why should o be the one doing the search to answer a windows troll ?
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                              misk@sopuli.xyz
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                              Well, Valve fanboys don’t seem to be concerned with factuality so that might work for you. Hopefully normal people see this for what it is.
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                              • misk@sopuli.xyzM misk@sopuli.xyz
                                Well, Valve fanboys don’t seem to be concerned with factuality so that might work for you. Hopefully normal people see this for what it is.
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                                Sure, enjoy your day.
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                                  Sure, enjoy your day.
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                                  Let me paint a picture here. My main computer is a MacBook Air M1, running Mac OS. My HTPC is an old Steam Machine, Asus GR6. It runs Ubuntu. I play current gen games on Xbox Series X and Nintendo Switch 2. My only Windows machine is an old ThinkPad that I use to flash settings to my car. I also own plethora of vintage portable consoles and some FPGA for retro stuff. But I commited blasphemy against Valve, and therefore I’m a Windows troll. Lol, grow up.
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                                  • misk@sopuli.xyzM misk@sopuli.xyz
                                    Let me paint a picture here. My main computer is a MacBook Air M1, running Mac OS. My HTPC is an old Steam Machine, Asus GR6. It runs Ubuntu. I play current gen games on Xbox Series X and Nintendo Switch 2. My only Windows machine is an old ThinkPad that I use to flash settings to my car. I also own plethora of vintage portable consoles and some FPGA for retro stuff. But I commited blasphemy against Valve, and therefore I’m a Windows troll. Lol, grow up.
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                                    Lol valve. Don't care about it. I mostly don't use steam, except for multi players games when network is really needed. I pirate everything and pay for games once I knew they are good. I got triggered by your comments about linux not being ready for gaming. It beat the switch easily, it beat the Xbox easily. Don't try to make yourself a victim. You shit on a full ecosystem without knowing and then cry when people telling you on it.
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                                      And the dirt finally starts getting thrown onto the casket. RIP XBOX, You really weren’t the same after J Allard left.
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                                        Broadly speaking, what are Xbox looking to do here? They optimise Windows for gaming and open up the console for other storefronts, then is it just a Steam device? They won't make money from Steam sales. Is this a cloud streaming device? Can you cloud stream games from other storefronts?
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                                        They have no idea what they’re doing.
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                                          Lol valve. Don't care about it. I mostly don't use steam, except for multi players games when network is really needed. I pirate everything and pay for games once I knew they are good. I got triggered by your comments about linux not being ready for gaming. It beat the switch easily, it beat the Xbox easily. Don't try to make yourself a victim. You shit on a full ecosystem without knowing and then cry when people telling you on it.
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                                          Have you considered addressing the fact that ProtonDB lists about 40% of Windows games as incompatible?
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