Years ago I did a video about "Link NYC" I was mostly concerned about the possibility of surveillance through the cameras.
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@futurebird @mayintoronto I carry a loaded battery pack to recharge with. Or do you mean something else?
I mean public charging stations.
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@futurebird london has these (https://global.com/outdoor/roadside/street-hub-advertising/, https://business.bt.com/public-sector/street-hubs/street-hubs-for-the-public/) which seem useful but I've never had to use, apparently they're also in other uk cities
Looks like a very similar design. I wonder what London does with those cameras?
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I mean public charging stations.
@futurebird @deborahh Toronto has all of these things on transit, but not on the street. Every now and then you might come across a payphone still, but they're rare now.
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Hey, people in other cities than NYC:
1. Do you have a way to charge your phone on the street?
2. Are there municipal information screens? Do they show ads?
3. Is there public wifi? Is it any good?
4. Can you make a phonecall on the street even if you don't have a cellphone?
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@futurebird I am aware of one (1) payphone on a major street corner in my town. Does that count?
Depends on how big the town is? Is one phone enough?
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Depends on how big the town is? Is one phone enough?
@futurebird It's long enough that it would take a healthy person an inordinate amount of time to walk from one end to the other to actually use the phone, so I'm gonna go with no.
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Hey, people in other cities than NYC:
1. Do you have a way to charge your phone on the street?
2. Are there municipal information screens? Do they show ads?
3. Is there public wifi? Is it any good?
4. Can you make a phonecall on the street even if you don't have a cellphone?
@futurebird in #Albuquerque one of our bus lines has screens that give local civic information but also run ads and are routinely broken. No charging or public calls though
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@futurebird @deborahh Toronto has all of these things on transit, but not on the street. Every now and then you might come across a payphone still, but they're rare now.
@mayintoronto @futurebird I've never noticed!
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Hey, people in other cities than NYC:
1. Do you have a way to charge your phone on the street?
2. Are there municipal information screens? Do they show ads?
3. Is there public wifi? Is it any good?
4. Can you make a phonecall on the street even if you don't have a cellphone?
@futurebird Suburbs of Adelaide, South Australia. All three.
But given that wireless charging is a feature reserved for high end phones, not sure how useful that is. Local government clearly isn't going to put 240V power on a socket in the street, so their choices are limited. Of course the free local library has power outlets for phone charging.
The info screens are really for beach conditions. We do have other alerting systems run by state (app and road signs) and federal government (SMS). No government is going to push out bushfire information to info screens, they want information direct to people on a phone where people can see a map and extended advice. Even when the radio reads a bushfire notice (twice) the full notice can take several minutes for a big fire.
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Hey, people in other cities than NYC:
1. Do you have a way to charge your phone on the street?
2. Are there municipal information screens? Do they show ads?
3. Is there public wifi? Is it any good?
4. Can you make a phonecall on the street even if you don't have a cellphone?
@futurebird the public transport has accessible information straight on the street, but nothing else. i haven’t seen a pay phone in years and there aren’t really any outside places where people are welcome or encouraged to stay long
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Hey, people in other cities than NYC:
1. Do you have a way to charge your phone on the street?
2. Are there municipal information screens? Do they show ads?
3. Is there public wifi? Is it any good?
4. Can you make a phonecall on the street even if you don't have a cellphone?
@futurebird in Oakland, we have the Ike digital signage. https://www.oaklandca.gov/Public-Safety-Streets/Streets/Interactive-Digital-Kiosks. It doesn't allow for charging.
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@futurebird london has these (https://global.com/outdoor/roadside/street-hub-advertising/, https://business.bt.com/public-sector/street-hubs/street-hubs-for-the-public/) which seem useful but I've never had to use, apparently they're also in other uk cities
@futurebird apparently the company that manufacture them are uk based and have a delightfully shitty website https://trueform.com/news/
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Hmm. I think the backlash to this kind of system being a way to collect data made it not spread to other cities as much.
Because the data is what's really worth the most with this system. The ads are fine, you can raise enough to keep it running and have staff and that's great... but that's not what some of the early supporters were hoping for.
And so they moved on to those wicked traffic cameras and other schemes.
North Little Rock, AR. Nothing on the street. But phone and charging available in the library (when open), and all the bars/cafés have charging with no questions asked.
City information is a large gentleman named Beaufort, who is officially a cop, but whose title is Ambassador. He and his crew also provide golf cart rides to people who need to get around downtown if they're mobility impaired or if the weather is bad.
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@futurebird apparently the company that manufacture them are uk based and have a delightfully shitty website https://trueform.com/news/
Why does the crappy website make me less suspicious of them?
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North Little Rock, AR. Nothing on the street. But phone and charging available in the library (when open), and all the bars/cafés have charging with no questions asked.
City information is a large gentleman named Beaufort, who is officially a cop, but whose title is Ambassador. He and his crew also provide golf cart rides to people who need to get around downtown if they're mobility impaired or if the weather is bad.
ya'll literally have a town crier? like of the olden days??
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Hey, people in other cities than NYC:
1. Do you have a way to charge your phone on the street?
2. Are there municipal information screens? Do they show ads?
3. Is there public wifi? Is it any good?
4. Can you make a phonecall on the street even if you don't have a cellphone?
@futurebird Wait! I think some of our bus stop shelters have chargers. But I'm not sure how available they are.
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Hey, people in other cities than NYC:
1. Do you have a way to charge your phone on the street?
2. Are there municipal information screens? Do they show ads?
3. Is there public wifi? Is it any good?
4. Can you make a phonecall on the street even if you don't have a cellphone?
@futurebird Australia has a payphone network with phone booths everywhere, and it’s now free to make calls to fixed lines and standard Australian mobile numbers from those phone booths. Very useful for people who don’t have a phone.
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ya'll literally have a town crier? like of the olden days??
Not a crier, he doesn't have a bell and yell stupid things like "All's Well." when they obviously aren't.
Beaufort and his crew of ambassadors walk / golf cart around downtown most nights, with more when there's an event going on.
They guide tourists to safe (free!) parking, advise about restaurants suitable for your group, tell you what events are coming up, and walk little old ladies across the street to the theatre.They also generally keep the peace in a way that most cops don't. I've seen them talk down a belligerent drunk, walk him outside and get him an Uber home...along with a card with numbers for several free therapy options.
They have a radio, baton, and a tazer; no body armor, no gun. In 15 years I've seen a baton come out once. It was used on an arm with a knife, not on a head.
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@futurebird Australia has a payphone network with phone booths everywhere, and it’s now free to make calls to fixed lines and standard Australian mobile numbers from those phone booths. Very useful for people who don’t have a phone.
@emmadavidson apart from the costs to operate these and deal with vandalism etc it makes sense when most people are on a monthly plan with fixed costs no matter how many calls they make. @futurebird
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Not a crier, he doesn't have a bell and yell stupid things like "All's Well." when they obviously aren't.
Beaufort and his crew of ambassadors walk / golf cart around downtown most nights, with more when there's an event going on.
They guide tourists to safe (free!) parking, advise about restaurants suitable for your group, tell you what events are coming up, and walk little old ladies across the street to the theatre.They also generally keep the peace in a way that most cops don't. I've seen them talk down a belligerent drunk, walk him outside and get him an Uber home...along with a card with numbers for several free therapy options.
They have a radio, baton, and a tazer; no body armor, no gun. In 15 years I've seen a baton come out once. It was used on an arm with a knife, not on a head.
Hmm to do the same thing in NYC we would need about 40 Beaufort's, one for each major superneighborhood ... probably more though. Nonetheless they could all watch a video each morning about what the latest thing was so they would be in sync.
Maybe they could find the old time square elmos and have them do it.
