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Years ago I did a video about "Link NYC" I was mostly concerned about the possibility of surveillance through the cameras.

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  • SmoljaguarS Smoljaguar

    @futurebird london has these (https://global.com/outdoor/roadside/street-hub-advertising/, https://business.bt.com/public-sector/street-hubs/street-hubs-for-the-public/) which seem useful but I've never had to use, apparently they're also in other uk cities

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    @Smoljaguar @futurebird

    48% of adults who see Streethubs are male

    What a bizarre statement to make, whatever is their intention behind it? Is it supposed to be a selling point that the majority are therefore non-male?

    Also: That's literally just the UK, or really world, population. You've told me that your audience is, within a margin of error, an audience.

    Would almost be impressed if it was any other number, especially given they are targeting busy shopping/tourist type areas I'm not totally sure how you'd place them in a way that skewed towards any particular gender, short of inexplicably putting a hundred of them in a random mens room.

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      @Smoljaguar @futurebird

      48% of adults who see Streethubs are male

      What a bizarre statement to make, whatever is their intention behind it? Is it supposed to be a selling point that the majority are therefore non-male?

      Also: That's literally just the UK, or really world, population. You've told me that your audience is, within a margin of error, an audience.

      Would almost be impressed if it was any other number, especially given they are targeting busy shopping/tourist type areas I'm not totally sure how you'd place them in a way that skewed towards any particular gender, short of inexplicably putting a hundred of them in a random mens room.

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      @Smoljaguar @futurebird pretty sure the social grade and age group stats are also just …generic population

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        Hey, people in other cities than NYC:

        1. Do you have a way to charge your phone on the street?

        2. Are there municipal information screens? Do they show ads?

        3. Is there public wifi? Is it any good?

        4. Can you make a phonecall on the street even if you don't have a cellphone?

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        @futurebird None of the above, with the caveat I haven't been on the street downtown in years. So maybe?

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        • Kristin (vis.social Admin)K Kristin (vis.social Admin)

          @futurebird Wait! I think some of our bus stop shelters have chargers. But I'm not sure how available they are.

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          @kristinHenry @futurebird
          In Germany I've seen cellphone chargers (USB outlets) in waiting areas in train stations, and in buses and trains, but not just somewhere out on the street.

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          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

            Years ago I did a video about "Link NYC" I was mostly concerned about the possibility of surveillance through the cameras. Link NYC is a massive system that puts screens on nearly every block in the city.

            Mamdani has been cutting short informative videos about city services for linkNYC. He's using it to tell people things like "if you have a 3 or 4 year old it's time to sign them up for pre-k now"

            Maybe he can really do this. No other mayor has used them like this.

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            @futurebird

            Local council renovated the local ferry wharf area.

            There are a few of these solar powered charging benches at the waterfront now.

            Down the big smoke, in Sydney, there are bus shelters, kiosks, toilets, information panels.

            The contact owner pays for the regular cleaning and maintenance and they get to show advertising in return.

            But the council also get to display information, event information and the police can have emergency information displayed. Eg NYE or VIVID they might use it to direct people away to other areas that are not over crowded.

            The city also has a volunteer ambassador program, that sees people at Circular Quay, and roving around the city, to give advice and knowledge on local landmarks, attractions, transport, shops and restaurants etc.

            They also have a town crier.

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              @jamey

              I didn't know that the mayor's office could put announcement on linkNYC. But it seems there is some of the screen time that's allotted to the city.

              The last two mayors just couldn't be bothered to put much effort into it.

              There were simple text announcements but nothing like the mayor explaining important deadlines.

              Which seems like a public relations no-brainer. But it's also more effective at getting people to pay attention.

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              @futurebird @jamey As Manhattan BP, Mark Levine used LinkNYC to promote Community Board meetings. and in the last week I've been seeing promos from assemblyman Alex Bores for his district town hall. I look forward to seeing Mamdani's videos, which I've somehow missed so far.

              I love some of the local artists they feature, too.

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              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                Hey, people in other cities than NYC:

                1. Do you have a way to charge your phone on the street?

                2. Are there municipal information screens? Do they show ads?

                3. Is there public wifi? Is it any good?

                4. Can you make a phonecall on the street even if you don't have a cellphone?

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                @futurebird
                Are Streets in Australian cities included? 🤔

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                  @futurebird
                  Are Streets in Australian cities included? 🤔

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                  @Su_G

                  any city in the world but NYC.

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                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                    Hey, people in other cities than NYC:

                    1. Do you have a way to charge your phone on the street?

                    2. Are there municipal information screens? Do they show ads?

                    3. Is there public wifi? Is it any good?

                    4. Can you make a phonecall on the street even if you don't have a cellphone?

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                    @futurebird I think the first question is a little confusing, because a lot of people carry power banks, myself included, but there's not like, a charging station on the street, so yes, but because you provide your own power, not because the city accommodates you.

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      Hey, people in other cities than NYC:

                      1. Do you have a way to charge your phone on the street?

                      2. Are there municipal information screens? Do they show ads?

                      3. Is there public wifi? Is it any good?

                      4. Can you make a phonecall on the street even if you don't have a cellphone?

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                      @futurebird this is hard to reply to because:

                      (1) phone booths have become extremely rare, but they still exist and work

                      (2) I have found a couple of solar powered bench chargers with USB ports around but never managed to get them to work reliably.

                      So on the one hand, I'd like to check a couple of those, OTOH, «not really»?

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                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                        @linuxandyarn @johntimaeus

                        I just walked right into this one didn't I MY GOD WOMAN

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                        @futurebird @linuxandyarn @johntimaeus I would say it blew right over you. 😉

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                        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                          Hey, people in other cities than NYC:

                          1. Do you have a way to charge your phone on the street?

                          2. Are there municipal information screens? Do they show ads?

                          3. Is there public wifi? Is it any good?

                          4. Can you make a phonecall on the street even if you don't have a cellphone?

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                          @futurebird I'm not sure about cities, but here in Italy most municipalities, especially the small ones, have something like this

                          which tends to have municipal information and be pretty useless, since they only fit a small amount of text; they don't have ads, but they also don't provide power for phones nor a way to call emergency services or anything.

                          (in the cities there are some places where you can charge phones, but I think those are mostly private and paid for by ads, lots of ads)

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                          • Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKV Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK

                            @jetlagjen @futurebird

                            there are some kinds of combined ad screen / local information board / telephone in my town (Ipswich, UK), I think they are operated by British Telecom. I think you can plug in a USB to charge phones with them (its also allowed to charge devices in the library, although that depends on their opening hours)

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                            @vfrmedia @futurebird ooh, fancy! Ipswich is clearly much posher than Stoke-on-Trent, but then, everywhere is.

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                            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                              Hey, people in other cities than NYC:

                              1. Do you have a way to charge your phone on the street?

                              2. Are there municipal information screens? Do they show ads?

                              3. Is there public wifi? Is it any good?

                              4. Can you make a phonecall on the street even if you don't have a cellphone?

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                              @futurebird Charge the phone on the street? No.

                              However, we do have USB charging points on many of the buses. (Run by a company whose major shareholder is the council).

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                                Hey, people in other cities than NYC:

                                1. Do you have a way to charge your phone on the street?

                                2. Are there municipal information screens? Do they show ads?

                                3. Is there public wifi? Is it any good?

                                4. Can you make a phonecall on the street even if you don't have a cellphone?

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                                @futurebird@sauropods.win In the UK we have the same sort of hardware being used primarily for advertising, exploiting a loophole in the planning regulations that allows telecoms companies to install phone boxes. By providing WiFi and/or phone calls, they're allowed to clutter our pedestrian areas with obnoxious advertising screens that nobody really wants.

                                I've never actually tried to use them for telecoms services, but I've cycled past while bored teenagers were making hoax calls from one...

                                Nice to know that they're being used for something good elsewhere, though.

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                                  @futurebird@sauropods.win In the UK we have the same sort of hardware being used primarily for advertising, exploiting a loophole in the planning regulations that allows telecoms companies to install phone boxes. By providing WiFi and/or phone calls, they're allowed to clutter our pedestrian areas with obnoxious advertising screens that nobody really wants.

                                  I've never actually tried to use them for telecoms services, but I've cycled past while bored teenagers were making hoax calls from one...

                                  Nice to know that they're being used for something good elsewhere, though.

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                                  @futurebird@sauropods.win rummages in the photo archive

                                  Does this count as 'public service'?

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                                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                    @Phosphenes

                                    They have wired internet connections IDK if it is ethernet or just cable.

                                    Each also has a wifi hotspot but it's very slow and annoying to use.

                                    Using the web browser on the little screen is faster, but not very private.

                                    "The cameras are turned off by default, and footage captured from any active cameras is stored for no longer than seven days unless the footage is necessary to investigate an incident."

                                    I think public backlash has lead them to say this.

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                                    @futurebird

                                    Your suggestion that the camera feeds should go to public screens is interesting (because I had the same idea, haha).

                                    If a public space is covered with cameras but the feeds are all visible to the public, then it is still just a public space. Except that crime and police brutality will always have witnesses.

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                                      @futurebird Charge the phone on the street? No.

                                      However, we do have USB charging points on many of the buses. (Run by a company whose major shareholder is the council).

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                                      @darkling @futurebird further in towards London from where @darkling is, there are information screens that sometimes have phone ports and allow you to make emergency calls (and sometimes non emergency). They're very patchy though.

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                                        @futurebird

                                        Your suggestion that the camera feeds should go to public screens is interesting (because I had the same idea, haha).

                                        If a public space is covered with cameras but the feeds are all visible to the public, then it is still just a public space. Except that crime and police brutality will always have witnesses.

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                                        @Phosphenes
                                        I wanted to make a suggestion that would make the power imbalance caused by one group having control of the surveillance data and how they are released apparent.

                                        As soon as these people imagine every ordinary person in command of such footage? Arranging it to tell our own stories? Then suddenly they find surveillance odious and invasive.

                                        They decided to just turn the cameras off rather than try my egalitarian surveillance experiment. (that may be for the best)

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                                          @Phosphenes
                                          I wanted to make a suggestion that would make the power imbalance caused by one group having control of the surveillance data and how they are released apparent.

                                          As soon as these people imagine every ordinary person in command of such footage? Arranging it to tell our own stories? Then suddenly they find surveillance odious and invasive.

                                          They decided to just turn the cameras off rather than try my egalitarian surveillance experiment. (that may be for the best)

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                                          @futurebird @Phosphenes
                                          Is there a city office you could make your suggestions to?

                                          Mamdani gives the impression he's trying to be receptive to constituent concerns. Though, not living there myself, I'm not clear how well this translates to actually listening to and combing through proposals.

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