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Sony faces class action over expensive digital game and DLC prices — ‘Sony tax’ means digital games cost ‘an average of 47% more’ than those on disc, group alleges
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“But not steam cause that’s MY corporation and Gabe is MY billionaire” They’re all taking advantage of you
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I mean… if Apple has to allow side-loading and alternative app stores then I think Sony should have to as well. It wouldn’t make sense to say that only Apple has dominion over the devices it makes and no other manufacturers operate the same.Well, this isn't about side-loading or alternative app stores though. The lawsuit is looking to force Sony to allow 3rd party key sellers. So you would have to use a different device like your phone or PC to go to another website, process your payment and get a code, then go to the PlayStation store and redeem that code to have the game added to your account and available for download. Just like there are 3rd party sellers for Steam keys. I know Nintendo allowed that for the 3DS, because there was a period of time where you couldn't process payments on the 3DS's eShop, but you could still redeem those codes. What you're suggesting would be akin to allowing Ubisoft, EA, or Rockstar to have their own stores on consoles where you could bypass the PlayStation Store/Xbox store/ Nintendo eShop if you want. Potentially 3rd parties like GOG, Steam, or Epic, but certainly there would be restrictions there. For examples, Steam would probably just be the Store without all the other platform features Steam offers. GOG's anti-DRM stance probably would not fly. Another key difference is that consoles have physical media. As far as I know, you've never been able to go to an Apple store or any other electronics store and buy a physical copy of an app. Even the digital edition of the PS5 now has an optical disc drive available for purchase.
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Same as every game company, except steam is all digital so you never own your games. Steam will take them away one day. Steam is run by a billionaire, which by default makes him a wage thief and leech. I would say steam has good PR, except they don’t, you steam boys heel them off for free. The trillion dollar corporation isn’t your friend, and neither is Gabe. If you have an ethical dilemma with game companies, stop gaming
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Well, this isn't about side-loading or alternative app stores though. The lawsuit is looking to force Sony to allow 3rd party key sellers. So you would have to use a different device like your phone or PC to go to another website, process your payment and get a code, then go to the PlayStation store and redeem that code to have the game added to your account and available for download. Just like there are 3rd party sellers for Steam keys. I know Nintendo allowed that for the 3DS, because there was a period of time where you couldn't process payments on the 3DS's eShop, but you could still redeem those codes. What you're suggesting would be akin to allowing Ubisoft, EA, or Rockstar to have their own stores on consoles where you could bypass the PlayStation Store/Xbox store/ Nintendo eShop if you want. Potentially 3rd parties like GOG, Steam, or Epic, but certainly there would be restrictions there. For examples, Steam would probably just be the Store without all the other platform features Steam offers. GOG's anti-DRM stance probably would not fly. Another key difference is that consoles have physical media. As far as I know, you've never been able to go to an Apple store or any other electronics store and buy a physical copy of an app. Even the digital edition of the PS5 now has an optical disc drive available for purchase.Baby steps. My main point was that Sony shouldn’t get special treatment.
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Same as every game company, except steam is all digital so you never own your games. Steam will take them away one day. Steam is run by a billionaire, which by default makes him a wage thief and leech. I would say steam has good PR, except they don’t, you steam boys heel them off for free. The trillion dollar corporation isn’t your friend, and neither is Gabe. If you have an ethical dilemma with game companies, stop gamingI agree that people glaze up Gabe way too much (the dude has a fuckin mega yacht for Christ’s sake), but in the specific area of games pricing I don’t think Steam is much of a problem from a consumer standpoint. I still think they should give more of the sale share to the actual devs though.
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Same as every game company, except steam is all digital so you never own your games. Steam will take them away one day. Steam is run by a billionaire, which by default makes him a wage thief and leech. I would say steam has good PR, except they don’t, you steam boys heel them off for free. The trillion dollar corporation isn’t your friend, and neither is Gabe. If you have an ethical dilemma with game companies, stop gamingNot owning digital content isn’t a Valve problem, it’s a “government is deeply corrupt” problem. You can thank the DMCA and laws like it for the loss of ownership. Want change? Run for office, call and harass politicians until they repeal anti-consumer laws like the DMCA and enshrine digital ownership as law.
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Yes, digital games are by and large more expensive than their disc counterparts a while after release, but digital games also regularly get put on significant sale, which often makes them cheaper than the disc versions. If you're not waiting for sales to buy them, I'm not sure why you're buying them at all.Physical copies are almost always cheaper, especially if you buy used. You cannot currently buy used digital games, and the sales they go on are rarely lower than their physical copy counterparts. I remember about a month after Destiny 1 launched the Rise of Iron expansion, I went to buy my brother the digital edition on Xbox 360 and it was like $100 USD, but there was a disx only used copy on ebay for $7. You can guess which copy I went with lol.
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“But not steam cause that’s MY corporation and Gabe is MY billionaire” They’re all taking advantage of you
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Wait, i thought nintendo set the precedent for 80 dollar games.... oh, that must have just been some bullshit thats been going round because people like drama. Ive been saying it from the date of the switch 2 reveal. Games have cost 80 dollars or more for a very long time.
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Physical copies are almost always cheaper, especially if you buy used. You cannot currently buy used digital games, and the sales they go on are rarely lower than their physical copy counterparts. I remember about a month after Destiny 1 launched the Rise of Iron expansion, I went to buy my brother the digital edition on Xbox 360 and it was like $100 USD, but there was a disx only used copy on ebay for $7. You can guess which copy I went with lol.Yes, a physical copy that is not on sale is often cheaper than a digital copy that is not on sale, but a digital copy that is on sale is often significantly cheaper than a physical copy that is on sale. The example you gave is a poor one as you're talking about a digital edition with DLC included vs a used physical edition with none of it. Comparing apples to oranges does not help your argument.
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I agree that people glaze up Gabe way too much (the dude has a fuckin mega yacht for Christ’s sake), but in the specific area of games pricing I don’t think Steam is much of a problem from a consumer standpoint. I still think they should give more of the sale share to the actual devs though.To correct you, he has many mega yachts.
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“But not steam cause that’s MY corporation and Gabe is MY billionaire” They’re all taking advantage of youJust want to say fuck yeah for saying this. Fuck steam/gabe. They may have been at the forefront of popularizing Pc gaming but they also were and are actively influential in the worst parts of the hobby. Gabe made billions off teaching children to gamble and loot boxes. Gabe made billions ensuring people are ok not owning their games. It’s crap that steam has a positive reputation at all.
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How often do consoles get the kind of deep discounts that games get on PC, though? Or even the price drops over time? It's not really a great deal when a $60 title drops to $30 on PSN, but the same game costs $30 as its _base price_ on Steam and is currently discounted to $8.Honestly most multi platform games I look at end up massively cheaper on sale on PlayStation than Steam. They have big(many games) weekly sales and even bigger “event” sales. Like your 60/30 example isn’t Sonys doing that’s the publisher. But the same thing happens the other way some games stay high priced way longer than you’d expect on Steam. Frankly Steam quit being the biggest discounts and such years ago just riding on the coattails of their reputation on how great their big sales used to be.
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Baby steps. My main point was that Sony shouldn’t get special treatment.
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To correct you, he has many mega yachts.Truly a man of the people
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Truly a man of the peopleYeah. It’s definitely a net good to introduce children to gambling to fund your mega yacht hobby.
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This post did not contain any content.Countless times I can buy an older game on Steam for like $5 on sale and like $40 on Playstation sale. Fucking idiotic.
