I am an adult.
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@mzedp@plasmatrap.comhttps://youtu.be/e_oWmY_mkCA
amazingly the people at this car company were so car-brained that they filmed this whole ad without realising that they were saying exactly that.
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Are these people really so fragile they need to be packed in a padded box like brittle bone China just to drive to the store? Would a summer breeze knock you over? Would the shouts of children at the playground shatter your ears? Is the sunlight on a bright summer day too bright for your eyes?
Is life too much for you?
Many of those oversized cars have a camera to see what's in front of the driver.
But soon or later the screen will start to show ads instead of the road, until the driver will pay for a subscription to the service…
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Many of those oversized cars have a camera to see what's in front of the driver.
But soon or later the screen will start to show ads instead of the road, until the driver will pay for a subscription to the service…
People talk about "screen time" but looking at a screen to see something that you ought to be able to see by, well, looking right at it with your eyes is a new level of unreality.
Will people allow themselves to be sealed off from the world so completely that *nothing* is experienced directly?
(That said, rear-view cameras are kind of awesome, but this tech has only really been developed so much because of the poor sight-lines of what passes for car design.)
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Are these people really so fragile they need to be packed in a padded box like brittle bone China just to drive to the store? Would a summer breeze knock you over? Would the shouts of children at the playground shatter your ears? Is the sunlight on a bright summer day too bright for your eyes?
Is life too much for you?
FYI, here's a Mercedes Benz video ad from 1990 that might answer some of your questions.
Designed to be openly racist, too, down to its very core (note the attitudes shown in every mini-event; the sound design; how the locals get pictured). It's title is "Willkommen zu Hause" (Welcome Home), and it is set in – Tunesia.
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People talk about "screen time" but looking at a screen to see something that you ought to be able to see by, well, looking right at it with your eyes is a new level of unreality.
Will people allow themselves to be sealed off from the world so completely that *nothing* is experienced directly?
(That said, rear-view cameras are kind of awesome, but this tech has only really been developed so much because of the poor sight-lines of what passes for car design.)
People WANT to live in Matrix pods.
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FYI, here's a Mercedes Benz video ad from 1990 that might answer some of your questions.
Designed to be openly racist, too, down to its very core (note the attitudes shown in every mini-event; the sound design; how the locals get pictured). It's title is "Willkommen zu Hause" (Welcome Home), and it is set in – Tunesia.
I understand from the way it's put together I'm supposed to sympathize with the guy but I just watched thinking "wow what a huge asshole" the whole time.
And the ad is racist, but in that way where if you discuss it eventually someone will ask "but how is it racist? he just wants quiet?" and you will feel so exhausted by the question you just let the whole thing go.
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People WANT to live in Matrix pods.
Oddly enough it's the same people who have been talking about their fear of pods and being forced to eat soy who have put themselves in literal isolation pods.
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I understand from the way it's put together I'm supposed to sympathize with the guy but I just watched thinking "wow what a huge asshole" the whole time.
And the ad is racist, but in that way where if you discuss it eventually someone will ask "but how is it racist? he just wants quiet?" and you will feel so exhausted by the question you just let the whole thing go.
@futurebird @katzenberger at least now you could directly compare it to some of those god-awful Loop earplugs ads which at least are just, like, random children you don't see making a noise in a supermarket. "Other cultures disgust me" is a TAKE.
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@futurebird @katzenberger at least now you could directly compare it to some of those god-awful Loop earplugs ads which at least are just, like, random children you don't see making a noise in a supermarket. "Other cultures disgust me" is a TAKE.
I haven't seen those ads. And for the record I love noise canceling headphones and earbuds.
Riding the subway without all the rumbles is amazing.
But, sometimes noise canceling can go too far. I often do a zoom call with my friend in Brooklyn to work on our writing. She has a lot of birds.
Zoom cuts out all of the birdsongs so I couldn't understand what she was talking about.
It also cuts out #picatheCat 's dynamic songs too. Robbing the world of her little voice.
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I understand from the way it's put together I'm supposed to sympathize with the guy but I just watched thinking "wow what a huge asshole" the whole time.
And the ad is racist, but in that way where if you discuss it eventually someone will ask "but how is it racist? he just wants quiet?" and you will feel so exhausted by the question you just let the whole thing go.
Most of the German comments under the video are along the lines of "this is like every average Western European city today", etc.
The car enables you to say "get off my land" wherever you choose to. Even abroad. Utter denial and distortion of reality, but on wheels.
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Most of the German comments under the video are along the lines of "this is like every average Western European city today", etc.
The car enables you to say "get off my land" wherever you choose to. Even abroad. Utter denial and distortion of reality, but on wheels.
"this is like every average Western European city today"
This is what real cities have always been since the dawn of time and if you don't like it? You don't really like cities ... or civilization.
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Are these people really so fragile they need to be packed in a padded box like brittle bone China just to drive to the store? Would a summer breeze knock you over? Would the shouts of children at the playground shatter your ears? Is the sunlight on a bright summer day too bright for your eyes?
Is life too much for you?
@futurebird I really like to shield myself from other humans, so I get that part, but I don't like to kill them. For shopping a cargo bike, sunglasses and hearing protection are fine. But for the transport of tools and family I like something bigger.
The funky thing is that it's virtually impossible to buy a vehicle that's doing what I want that isn't also designed to murder humans.
Why do even electric vehicles have the 'FU just die' fronts??
I blame the ads of the evil oligarchs for this.
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"this is like every average Western European city today"
This is what real cities have always been since the dawn of time and if you don't like it? You don't really like cities ... or civilization.
Cities are the place where you encounter people who are different from yourself. You can learn from them, fall in love with them, trade with them and become fabulously wealthy. That's the whole point of the city.
It's a place for everyone who likes the idea of a place for everyone.
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@futurebird I really like to shield myself from other humans, so I get that part, but I don't like to kill them. For shopping a cargo bike, sunglasses and hearing protection are fine. But for the transport of tools and family I like something bigger.
The funky thing is that it's virtually impossible to buy a vehicle that's doing what I want that isn't also designed to murder humans.
Why do even electric vehicles have the 'FU just die' fronts??
I blame the ads of the evil oligarchs for this.
Too many of the people who might want more reasonable vehicles have just opted out of having one at all. Carmakers don't care what someone like me thinks about their cars as I will never buy one.
If I had to I expect it would be a very annoying process.
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@futurebird @katzenberger at least now you could directly compare it to some of those god-awful Loop earplugs ads which at least are just, like, random children you don't see making a noise in a supermarket. "Other cultures disgust me" is a TAKE.
@Flisty@mstdn.social @futurebird@sauropods.win @katzenberger@tldr.nettime.org I bought a pair of those a million years ago for live music shows, but the amount of ads is making me regret my choice.
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The windows are tinted, or at least shaded, the car is so tall and high you can hardly see. The car is sound insulated and there is even noise canceling so nothing from the outside world can reach you in there.
And maybe the computer will drive for you sometimes too. It's like you never left your house. The world cannot touch you. You are alone.
Do we ever talk about how cars make people lonely?
@futurebird I think it has been covered in several episodes of "the war on cars". I also think I've encountered discussion on how cars isolate people in several books. I don't have links handy thought.
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@Flisty@mstdn.social @futurebird@sauropods.win @katzenberger@tldr.nettime.org I bought a pair of those a million years ago for live music shows, but the amount of ads is making me regret my choice.
ear plugs what ads?
is this what you are telling me this is???
that is a nightmare!
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Are these people really so fragile they need to be packed in a padded box like brittle bone China just to drive to the store? Would a summer breeze knock you over? Would the shouts of children at the playground shatter your ears? Is the sunlight on a bright summer day too bright for your eyes?
Is life too much for you?
@futurebird I have never owned a car, and life is definitely too much for me.
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Too many of the people who might want more reasonable vehicles have just opted out of having one at all. Carmakers don't care what someone like me thinks about their cars as I will never buy one.
If I had to I expect it would be a very annoying process.
@futurebird @iwein when I was a kid, we had a family station wagon, and many of my friend’s families had one too. All a bit different, but basically pretty reasonable cars to go places with up to 8 people. Now they barely make sedans, and the closest thing to a station wagon is a smallish SUV. My dad recently got one to use like a station wagon with my step-niblings, and it doesn’t quite have the “die, peasant” look, but it’s got a milder version of the same problems
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@futurebird @iwein when I was a kid, we had a family station wagon, and many of my friend’s families had one too. All a bit different, but basically pretty reasonable cars to go places with up to 8 people. Now they barely make sedans, and the closest thing to a station wagon is a smallish SUV. My dad recently got one to use like a station wagon with my step-niblings, and it doesn’t quite have the “die, peasant” look, but it’s got a milder version of the same problems
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I’ve got an 11-year-old sedan, and even that is bigger than I need. I’m hoping it’ll last until I pay off my student loans, and I’m not looking forward to what my options will be at that time. Especially if I’m lucky enough to have kids by then. I miss when they made cars that were just reasonable ways to get places, especially ones like our old station wagon
