Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.
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Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.
If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?
Anyway welcome to communism.
@futurebird Big Coffee is not going to like this.
(I haven't been to the US since the 90s but when I was in NYC it was a minor source of amusement/irritation to me that the only easy place to go to the loo was a cafe but ofc you had to buy something to use it... like a coffee. Which meant that you needed to go to the loo again quite soon after... at another cafe.)
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@futurebird @Szescstopni In the US, everything from women’s rights to banking regulations to efforts to end racist segregation is called “communism” by the right.
@ShiitakeToast Yes. So sad. So stupid. @futurebird
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Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.
If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?
Anyway welcome to communism.
@futurebird
Communism is when you can find a place to pee without buying something. -
@futurebird I like Zohran because he goes to solve obvious problems instead of coming up with complex justifications why he can’t.
I remember when I lived in NYC they were removing trash bins from subway platforms to “encourage NYers to carry their trash home with them.” This led to a predictable increase in trash fires delaying subway trains.
@sidereal @futurebird More like "take your trash home so we can cut the workers who empty the bins and don't have to pay for the trash to be taken away."
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Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.
If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?
Anyway welcome to communism.
@futurebird It might be nice to travel into NYC and not have to plan bathroom breaks as carefully as I need to.
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@futurebird I cannot stress enough how public toilets are necessary for the non cis male public. Whenever I travel, or even when I just leave home for a few hours it is an issue. Especially for those who can't afford cafés and such. Shops used to have toilets over here whenever they had a seated area. Now you're lucky to find one and not pay a Euro for it.
@LappenjammerDieZweite @futurebird This especially applies to disabled and chronically ill people (in that case even including cis men). There are some diseases/disabilities where someone might just have to go to the toilet IMMEDIATELY. -
@futurebird It might be nice to travel into NYC and not have to plan bathroom breaks as carefully as I need to.
Well lets see if this is a big enough program.
Doing things in NYC means go big or go home. For this to have an impact it will need to have a secure funding source and it should take about a year or two to spin up.
I will be watching.
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@futurebird I recently stayed in a decent hotel. The people working at reception (open about 12 hours a day) had to go to a cafe across the street every. single. day.
Seriously the working conditions have eroded badly these past years and politicians still frame everyone of being work shy.@LappenjammerDieZweite @futurebird WTF? That would be illegal in the UK. You've got to provide toilets for your workers by law.
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Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.
If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?
Anyway welcome to communism.
I hope they're not gender specific.
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Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.
If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?
Anyway welcome to communism.
Brb gonna' set up a photobooth on the sidewalk in which I present the Wim Wenders film about a Japanese man who cleans toilets and lock people in until they've watched the entire movie.
This is my supervillain origin story
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Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.
If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?
Anyway welcome to communism.
Starbucks wil be grateful, too, as they'll stop being port of last resort.
It's really a win-win for everyone—except the minions managing Trump's 'retribution' . . .
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Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.
If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?
Anyway welcome to communism.
@futurebird The communist principle of [checks notes] not wanting people to pee in the street or crap their pants.
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Well lets see if this is a big enough program.
Doing things in NYC means go big or go home. For this to have an impact it will need to have a secure funding source and it should take about a year or two to spin up.
I will be watching.
@futurebird @jacobyaudio
> Doing things in NYC means go big or go homeReading this in the context of toilets is... interesting
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Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.
If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?
Anyway welcome to communism.
The homeless and drug users will ruin the new bathrooms. Without addressing that issue first, this is just a waste of time.
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@futurebird The communist principle of [checks notes] not wanting people to pee in the street or crap their pants.
@ColesStreetPothole @futurebird actually, peeing on the street for free _is_ communist!
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I hope they're not gender specific.
@EricLawton @futurebird
"That" only works in cultured, civilized societies and a couple of generations in the future.
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Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.
If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?
Anyway welcome to communism.
@futurebird One of the hardest things for my mom when she has tried to visit me in New York has been toilet access. If you are not used to just holding it for hours, which most of us are, the city is totally inaccessible. I showed her that most hotels will not stop you from using a lobby toilet if you look like you know what you are doing, and she was convinced the city has made me insane. And then you visit a place like Tokyo and have a luxury bidet toilet experience in a subway station...
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@futurebird One of the hardest things for my mom when she has tried to visit me in New York has been toilet access. If you are not used to just holding it for hours, which most of us are, the city is totally inaccessible. I showed her that most hotels will not stop you from using a lobby toilet if you look like you know what you are doing, and she was convinced the city has made me insane. And then you visit a place like Tokyo and have a luxury bidet toilet experience in a subway station...
@carrideen @futurebird right. the other tricks i know are pretty clustered around midtown: museum memberships, making to the mall at columbus circle, NYPL branches. Used to be Crate & Barrel, which had a set of maybe 4 stalls in 2 bathrooms. but then it moved downtown, and now there's one stall that's harder to access.
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@carrideen @futurebird right. the other tricks i know are pretty clustered around midtown: museum memberships, making to the mall at columbus circle, NYPL branches. Used to be Crate & Barrel, which had a set of maybe 4 stalls in 2 bathrooms. but then it moved downtown, and now there's one stall that's harder to access.
@carrideen @futurebird in Queens, where we have all the big-box retail, it's a little easier. but then you gotta be at big box retail. sigh.
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Well lets see if this is a big enough program.
Doing things in NYC means go big or go home. For this to have an impact it will need to have a secure funding source and it should take about a year or two to spin up.
I will be watching.
I was reading an interview with Mamdami where he was commenting that the funding for a lot of these programs had already been secured years ago, just never implemented. I don't know if this is one of them, but I know they've been talking about installing public toilets in NYC since I lived there in the 90s!
