Why are US fascists fixated on Greenland?
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Reminds me of an article I read ages ago (5-6 years maybe?). It was by some guy who did climate catastrophe-related stuff (I think).
They were given a generous amount of money to give some advice to a group of wealthy individuals.
They wrote that the questions started rather generic, but quickly boiled down to some rather disturbing details. Like "how can I ensure that my guards don't revolt". Or "is automating everything the better choice". Or "is something like a shock collar feasible".
Living with people with only shock collars keeping them from killing me is a hell only second to living with a shock collar myself and trying to figure out how to get it off and get rid of whoever put it on.
Why live in hell?
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It's also why you find so many rich people in places like NYC, Tokyo, London etc.
They want the good services! The best ones.
How is that going to work in a bunker? Are you going to have five chefs in there? What do you do when they decide to kill you and keep your bunker?
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@futurebird@sauropods.win @alexwild@mastodon.online Or worse than kill you -- what happens when they expect you to work?
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I have more than average exposure to rich people, as one does in NYC. I don't think any are billionaires, but millionaires probably.
Anyway. These are the most helpless people on the planet. Really most people are much more helpless than they suspect, even the more rugged off the grid types. But, having a lot of money makes it too tempting to just let other people do things for you.
I think this is why they like the fantasy offered by AI and robots so much.
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@futurebird @alexwild This tracks with my experience with millionaires too. They’re very helpless people. Trapped within the system because it's "convenient ".
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@futurebird @alexwild it's why I laugh when people say these parasites will flee into Space, they would be useless in Space, even worse than passengers....like some belligerent livestock perhaps?
@Lazarou @futurebird @alexwild They’ll take some sycophants with them. It’ll be like Total Recall, though. Eventually the minions will revolt.
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I have more than average exposure to rich people, as one does in NYC. I don't think any are billionaires, but millionaires probably.
Anyway. These are the most helpless people on the planet. Really most people are much more helpless than they suspect, even the more rugged off the grid types. But, having a lot of money makes it too tempting to just let other people do things for you.
I think this is why they like the fantasy offered by AI and robots so much.
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@futurebird preach
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@futurebird@sauropods.win @alexwild@mastodon.online Or worse than kill you -- what happens when they expect you to work?
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@futurebird @wakame @alexwild
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@Lazarou @futurebird @alexwild They’ll take some sycophants with them. It’ll be like Total Recall, though. Eventually the minions will revolt.
@CStamp @futurebird @alexwild I like those sorts of narratives, I want to see more of them! REBELLION!
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Reminds me of an article I read ages ago (5-6 years maybe?). It was by some guy who did climate catastrophe-related stuff (I think).
They were given a generous amount of money to give some advice to a group of wealthy individuals.
They wrote that the questions started rather generic, but quickly boiled down to some rather disturbing details. Like "how can I ensure that my guards don't revolt". Or "is automating everything the better choice". Or "is something like a shock collar feasible".
Remote controlled service robots are awesome because you can simply turn them off when you want to be alone.
You can pretend that it is just a machine while there is a human intelligence on the other end.Like slavery but a robot doesn't need food or a bed, just a charger.
And we are modern 21st century people, of course. We don't do slave-in-the-house slavery. That likely sits weird even with far-right people.
Only cheap clothes from poor countries slavery. Person brings me food to the door slavery. Maybe soon remote contolled sexbot slavery. Worst case: Human in a robot costume behaving like a robot and only getting paid if you don't notice.
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Remote controlled service robots are awesome because you can simply turn them off when you want to be alone.
You can pretend that it is just a machine while there is a human intelligence on the other end.Like slavery but a robot doesn't need food or a bed, just a charger.
And we are modern 21st century people, of course. We don't do slave-in-the-house slavery. That likely sits weird even with far-right people.
Only cheap clothes from poor countries slavery. Person brings me food to the door slavery. Maybe soon remote contolled sexbot slavery. Worst case: Human in a robot costume behaving like a robot and only getting paid if you don't notice.
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@futurebird @alexwild it's why I laugh when people say these parasites will flee into Space, they would be useless in Space, even worse than passengers....like some belligerent livestock perhaps?
@Lazarou @futurebird @alexwild The crew might toss them out of an airlock just to get a little peace and quiet. Imagine months spent stuck in a small room with a billionaire with a Hitler fetish.
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@Lazarou @futurebird @alexwild The crew might toss them out of an airlock just to get a little peace and quiet. Imagine months spent stuck in a small room with a billionaire with a Hitler fetish.
@steter @futurebird @alexwild Elon Musk has never set foot in Space and never will because of things like this. He's a coward and he's never going to Mars, a Fraudster too!
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@steter @futurebird @alexwild Elon Musk has never set foot in Space and never will because of things like this. He's a coward and he's never going to Mars, a Fraudster too!
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Totally unrealistic, because that would mean that you have a millionaire and 3-4 staff.
Makes people think "how likely is it that I am millionaire and not staff"?
With robots, you can make it "obvious" that nobody in this room will be staff. Because nobody here is a robot.
(Same way nobody in the room was a woman. Or a foreigner. Or a slave...)
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@futurebird @alexwild it's why I laugh when people say these parasites will flee into Space, they would be useless in Space, even worse than passengers....like some belligerent livestock perhaps?
@Lazarou @futurebird @alexwild Watched a BBC drama a month or two ago called “To The Ends Of The Earth”, starring Benedict Cumberbatch. It’s about a ship sailing to Australia with a few “privileged” passengers aboard. I envision our tech parasites on a trip to Mars (or wherever) being like those passengers.
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Reminds me of an article I read ages ago (5-6 years maybe?). It was by some guy who did climate catastrophe-related stuff (I think).
They were given a generous amount of money to give some advice to a group of wealthy individuals.
They wrote that the questions started rather generic, but quickly boiled down to some rather disturbing details. Like "how can I ensure that my guards don't revolt". Or "is automating everything the better choice". Or "is something like a shock collar feasible".
@wakame @futurebird @alexwild Douglas Rushkoff tells a story like this in "Survival of the Richest," which i haven't read, but have read reviews of:
Why Billionaires Are Obsessed With the Apocalypse
The Nation Magazine
The Nation (www.thenation.com)
That review is from 2024, but like you, I thought I'd heard the basic anecdote longer ago.
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@alexwild because melting ice is opening it up as a trade route so they can Nike the Middle East
@ChuffMeister @alexwild off topic but "Nike" is an amazing corn/unalive/etc. of "nuke" -
It's also why you find so many rich people in places like NYC, Tokyo, London etc.
They want the good services! The best ones.
How is that going to work in a bunker? Are you going to have five chefs in there? What do you do when they decide to kill you and keep your bunker?
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@futurebird @alexwild The corollary being: no, they are *not* going to leave and their their money with them if you raise their taxes by a few percent.
The claim they're going to leave must be read as *threats*, and empty ones at that.
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Reminds me of an article I read ages ago (5-6 years maybe?). It was by some guy who did climate catastrophe-related stuff (I think).
They were given a generous amount of money to give some advice to a group of wealthy individuals.
They wrote that the questions started rather generic, but quickly boiled down to some rather disturbing details. Like "how can I ensure that my guards don't revolt". Or "is automating everything the better choice". Or "is something like a shock collar feasible".
@wakame @futurebird @alexwild It’s probably this
The super-rich ‘preppers’ planning to save themselves from the apocalypse
Tech billionaires are buying up luxurious bunkers to survive a societal collapse they helped create, but like everything they do, it has unintended consequences
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
