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Why are US fascists fixated on Greenland?

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    @futurebird @alexwild

    Reminds me of an article I read ages ago (5-6 years maybe?). It was by some guy who did climate catastrophe-related stuff (I think).

    They were given a generous amount of money to give some advice to a group of wealthy individuals.

    They wrote that the questions started rather generic, but quickly boiled down to some rather disturbing details. Like "how can I ensure that my guards don't revolt". Or "is automating everything the better choice". Or "is something like a shock collar feasible".

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    @futurebird @alexwild

    Remote controlled service robots are awesome because you can simply turn them off when you want to be alone.
    You can pretend that it is just a machine while there is a human intelligence on the other end.

    Like slavery but a robot doesn't need food or a bed, just a charger.

    And we are modern 21st century people, of course. We don't do slave-in-the-house slavery. That likely sits weird even with far-right people.

    Only cheap clothes from poor countries slavery. Person brings me food to the door slavery. Maybe soon remote contolled sexbot slavery. Worst case: Human in a robot costume behaving like a robot and only getting paid if you don't notice.

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      @futurebird @alexwild

      Remote controlled service robots are awesome because you can simply turn them off when you want to be alone.
      You can pretend that it is just a machine while there is a human intelligence on the other end.

      Like slavery but a robot doesn't need food or a bed, just a charger.

      And we are modern 21st century people, of course. We don't do slave-in-the-house slavery. That likely sits weird even with far-right people.

      Only cheap clothes from poor countries slavery. Person brings me food to the door slavery. Maybe soon remote contolled sexbot slavery. Worst case: Human in a robot costume behaving like a robot and only getting paid if you don't notice.

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      @wakame @alexwild

      What if you had a bunch of well paid staff who did a great job helping you because you were reasonable and treated them with basic respect?

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      • Lazarou Monkey Terror πŸš€πŸ’™πŸŒˆL Lazarou Monkey Terror πŸš€πŸ’™πŸŒˆ

        @futurebird @alexwild it's why I laugh when people say these parasites will flee into Space, they would be useless in Space, even worse than passengers....like some belligerent livestock perhaps?

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        @Lazarou @futurebird @alexwild The crew might toss them out of an airlock just to get a little peace and quiet. Imagine months spent stuck in a small room with a billionaire with a Hitler fetish.

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          @wakame @alexwild

          Living with people with only shock collars keeping them from killing me is a hell only second to living with a shock collar myself and trying to figure out how to get it off and get rid of whoever put it on.

          Why live in hell?

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          @futurebird @alexwild

          A: "Fossil fuels and capitalism is killing us. We need to do something."

          B: "Something?"

          A: "Like less distruction, less mass production, less billionaires."

          B: "Could I see those shock collars again?"

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            @Lazarou @futurebird @alexwild The crew might toss them out of an airlock just to get a little peace and quiet. Imagine months spent stuck in a small room with a billionaire with a Hitler fetish.

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            @steter @futurebird @alexwild Elon Musk has never set foot in Space and never will because of things like this. He's a coward and he's never going to Mars, a Fraudster too!

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            • Lazarou Monkey Terror πŸš€πŸ’™πŸŒˆL Lazarou Monkey Terror πŸš€πŸ’™πŸŒˆ

              @steter @futurebird @alexwild Elon Musk has never set foot in Space and never will because of things like this. He's a coward and he's never going to Mars, a Fraudster too!

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              @Lazarou @futurebird @alexwild πŸ’―

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                @wakame @alexwild

                What if you had a bunch of well paid staff who did a great job helping you because you were reasonable and treated them with basic respect?

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                @futurebird @alexwild

                Totally unrealistic, because that would mean that you have a millionaire and 3-4 staff.

                Makes people think "how likely is it that I am millionaire and not staff"?

                With robots, you can make it "obvious" that nobody in this room will be staff. Because nobody here is a robot.

                (Same way nobody in the room was a woman. Or a foreigner. Or a slave...)

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                • Lazarou Monkey Terror πŸš€πŸ’™πŸŒˆL Lazarou Monkey Terror πŸš€πŸ’™πŸŒˆ

                  @futurebird @alexwild it's why I laugh when people say these parasites will flee into Space, they would be useless in Space, even worse than passengers....like some belligerent livestock perhaps?

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                  @Lazarou @futurebird @alexwild Watched a BBC drama a month or two ago called β€œTo The Ends Of The Earth”, starring Benedict Cumberbatch. It’s about a ship sailing to Australia with a few β€œprivileged” passengers aboard. I envision our tech parasites on a trip to Mars (or wherever) being like those passengers.

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                    @futurebird @alexwild

                    Reminds me of an article I read ages ago (5-6 years maybe?). It was by some guy who did climate catastrophe-related stuff (I think).

                    They were given a generous amount of money to give some advice to a group of wealthy individuals.

                    They wrote that the questions started rather generic, but quickly boiled down to some rather disturbing details. Like "how can I ensure that my guards don't revolt". Or "is automating everything the better choice". Or "is something like a shock collar feasible".

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                    @wakame @futurebird @alexwild Douglas Rushkoff tells a story like this in "Survival of the Richest," which i haven't read, but have read reviews of:

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                    That review is from 2024, but like you, I thought I'd heard the basic anecdote longer ago.

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                      @alexwild because melting ice is opening it up as a trade route so they can Nike the Middle East

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                      @ChuffMeister @alexwild off topic but "Nike" is an amazing corn/unalive/etc. of "nuke"
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                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                        @alexwild

                        It's also why you find so many rich people in places like NYC, Tokyo, London etc.

                        They want the good services! The best ones.

                        How is that going to work in a bunker? Are you going to have five chefs in there? What do you do when they decide to kill you and keep your bunker?

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                        @futurebird @alexwild The corollary being: no, they are *not* going to leave and their their money with them if you raise their taxes by a few percent.

                        The claim they're going to leave must be read as *threats*, and empty ones at that.

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                          @futurebird @alexwild

                          Reminds me of an article I read ages ago (5-6 years maybe?). It was by some guy who did climate catastrophe-related stuff (I think).

                          They were given a generous amount of money to give some advice to a group of wealthy individuals.

                          They wrote that the questions started rather generic, but quickly boiled down to some rather disturbing details. Like "how can I ensure that my guards don't revolt". Or "is automating everything the better choice". Or "is something like a shock collar feasible".

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                          @wakame @futurebird @alexwild It’s probably this

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                          The super-rich β€˜preppers’ planning to save themselves from the apocalypse

                          Tech billionaires are buying up luxurious bunkers to survive a societal collapse they helped create, but like everything they do, it has unintended consequences

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                          the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

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                            @Lazarou @futurebird @alexwild Watched a BBC drama a month or two ago called β€œTo The Ends Of The Earth”, starring Benedict Cumberbatch. It’s about a ship sailing to Australia with a few β€œprivileged” passengers aboard. I envision our tech parasites on a trip to Mars (or wherever) being like those passengers.

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                            @thegaffer @futurebird @alexwild ooo, Jared Harris!

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                              @futurebird @alexwild The corollary being: no, they are *not* going to leave and their their money with them if you raise their taxes by a few percent.

                              The claim they're going to leave must be read as *threats*, and empty ones at that.

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                              @OrionKidder @futurebird @alexwild https://sfba.social/@drahardja/115841080357294931

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                              • Dave RahardjaD Dave Rahardja

                                @wakame @futurebird @alexwild It’s probably this

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                                The super-rich β€˜preppers’ planning to save themselves from the apocalypse

                                Tech billionaires are buying up luxurious bunkers to survive a societal collapse they helped create, but like everything they do, it has unintended consequences

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                                the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

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                                @drahardja @futurebird @alexwild

                                Wow. Yes. Thanks.

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                                  @OrionKidder @futurebird @alexwild https://sfba.social/@drahardja/115841080357294931

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                                  @drahardja Exactly. The greatest lesson of that post is: Let them go. Fuck 'em. They're not *valuable*. The idea that we need them at all is part of their bullshit.

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                                    @drahardja Exactly. The greatest lesson of that post is: Let them go. Fuck 'em. They're not *valuable*. The idea that we need them at all is part of their bullshit.

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                                    @OrionKidder Exactly

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                                      @OrionKidder Exactly

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                                      @drahardja Also: pass laws against capital flight. No, Mr. Billionaire, *you* did not make that money all by yourself. You *might* have done a job that was somewhat influential on it, but the workers did it and the infrastructure enabled it.

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                                      • ColesStreetPotholeC ColesStreetPothole

                                        @ai6yr @Lazarou @futurebird @alexwild Can we please send them into space nowwwww?!!! πŸ™πŸ»

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                                        @ColesStreetPothole @ai6yr @Lazarou@mastodon.social @futurebird @alexwild
                                        I was so sad when their idea of floating city states didn't pan out.

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                                          @ColesStreetPothole @ai6yr @Lazarou@mastodon.social @futurebird @alexwild
                                          I was so sad when their idea of floating city states didn't pan out.

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                                          @cshlan @ColesStreetPothole @ai6yr @alexwild

                                          There is a thing called a NORC "naturally occurring retirement community" where if a bunch of old people live in the same building it sort of turns into a nursing home.

                                          I thought the libertarian floating cities would be NORTVS
                                          "naturally occurring reality TV shows"

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