@futurebird I grew up thinking of "New England" as not having definite or well-agreed on boundaries. Long Island, might or might not be included, I thought, depending on context. More parts of New York, maybe even the whole state might be included, or might not. Some or even all of New Jersey could creep in. Maybe even parts of Delware or even Pennsylvania. Is northwestern Maine, with its vast forests of moose and lynx really part of New England?

@llewelly @futurebird

I think most people around here in MA would tell you that the boarders are a bit fuzzy. Do parts of upstate New York count? Yeah, maybe. Does Long Island count? Yeah, maybe.

Does New York City count? Definitely not.

@apLundell @llewelly

My husband is the same way and it's endlessly odd to me. He gets offended when I get it wrong. But growing up in the midwest we thought Philly, DC, Boston all of were "new england"

Everyone gets so mad at me when I say "NYC is basically in New England."
but then these same people walk around. talking about "fog lights on the DEP boat" and "a big nor'easter coming in"

Like this is a fishing village with rocky soil. (Which it kinda is)

@futurebird

This is the canonical definition.

@mattdm @futurebird Oh, you had to get me started, didn’t you? Once upon a time, Dunkin’ Donuts was excellent. Now it is just another huge corporate chain with donuts so crappy that they dropped them out of the name. Every store used to bake donuts fresh every morning and throughout the day. Now they come in on tractor trailer trucks from central manufacturing facilities (I refuse to call them bakeries).
As for the coffee, it is meh. Good for American coffee, but crap compared to real coffee.

@bhawthorne @futurebird

Yeah, I'm old enough to remember that too. A tragic fall. Yet, still iconic!

@apLundell @llewelly

My husband is the same way and it's endlessly odd to me. He gets offended when I get it wrong. But growing up in the midwest we thought Philly, DC, Boston all of were "new england"

@mattdm @bhawthorne @futurebird Their crullers were fantastic. You could see the end coming when they dropped them from the menu because they were harder to make.

@sbourne @mattdm @futurebird They certainly were. Cinnamon cruller was my normal if I was getting coffee. If it was just donuts, I would get a jelly donut and a Boston cream.

@sbourne @mattdm @futurebird They certainly were. Cinnamon cruller was my normal if I was getting coffee. If it was just donuts, I would get a jelly donut and a Boston cream.

@bhawthorne @sbourne @mattdm

Krispy Kream is still good. IDK why anyone would go to Dunkin Corn Syrup Bricks when you could have a donut that's as insubstantial as ether that tastes like it was made for the angles.

@bhawthorne @sbourne @mattdm

Krispy Kream is still good. IDK why anyone would go to Dunkin Corn Syrup Bricks when you could have a donut that's as insubstantial as ether that tastes like it was made for the angles.

@futurebird @sbourne @mattdm I consider Krispy Kreme doughnuts to be lovely but much too fluffy and sweet for my taste. They taste are more like dessert pastries than doughnuts to me. Now that DDs are terrible, my favorites are when I fry up a batch of cider doughnuts at home myself, or pick them up fresh from one of the local farms that make them in the fall.

So, question for KK lovers: Do you eat them mostly as breakfast cakes or as after-dinner desserts?

@bhawthorne @sbourne @mattdm

It's not the kind of thing you plan to eat? You bring them to a morning meeting if you called the meeting to apologize for making everyone get up. You need to pick them up on the way over so they are still warm.

So you have one if someone brings a box and it's fresh.

It's its own category of food.

@futurebird @bhawthorne @sbourne @mattdm

gosh! I know someone who knows the exact times when their local Krispy Kreme makes fresh batches and when I used to go and stay at their place as a teenager they would take me and we'd have them fresh off the belt and it was just the best.

@futurebird @bhawthorne @sbourne @mattdm

gosh! I know someone who knows the exact times when their local Krispy Kreme makes fresh batches and when I used to go and stay at their place as a teenager they would take me and we'd have them fresh off the belt and it was just the best.

@fritzoids @futurebird @bhawthorne @sbourne @mattdm I had a colleague who traveled quitea bit from Switzerland to the US for his job search, and when he was transiting through DC on the way back to Switzerland, he’d buy Krispy Kreme for the office at the airport. According to him, the flight plus train trip was just under the limit for them to be fresh enough.

@oscherler @fritzoids @futurebird @bhawthorne @sbourne

Krispy Kreme tried to invade, but couldn't get a foothold.

Also they are really only good for, like, five minutes off the belt.