Somethings going around amongst the American Evangelicals and people on tiktok are saying the rapture, will happen on the 23rd or 24th.
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Somethings going around amongst the American Evangelicals and people on tiktok are saying the rapture, will happen on the 23rd or 24th. This happens every few years and nothing is learned.
But, technically *I'm* an evangelical Christian. I went to a baptist church for all my youth and mysteriously didn't have any of the traumatic experiences I've heard about. Never heard a word about "rapture"
Mostly just a lot of "if you think you are saved you probably aren't BE BETTER"
@futurebird are they giving away all their worldly property yet?
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Lots of "don't be greedy"
"don't exploit others"
"don't think you are better than anyone"
"don't trust anyone who says they know the exact letter of God's will."I still kind of have those values. I'll think "maybe I shouldn't go on a vacation, maybe I should help people with that money that's what Jesus would do."
It used to really worry me when I was a kid.
It makes me really sad to see religion be such a destructive force in people's lives. Some people think that's inevitable. I tend to think it's more inevitable that some people will bend anything to their purposes and religion is just another thing this impacts.
Anyways.
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@futurebird there's a whole-ass parable about how people who think they're gonna predict when are wrong and are gonna be left out, but selective reading skills are apparently very strong.
I remember a whole sermon on that one.
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@futurebird are they giving away all their worldly property yet?
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It makes me really sad to see religion be such a destructive force in people's lives. Some people think that's inevitable. I tend to think it's more inevitable that some people will bend anything to their purposes and religion is just another thing this impacts.
Anyways.
"Yes we all really thought that the day had come but God Almighty has seen fit to spare us. And isn't that a blessing? Because I know there are some of you among us who *said* you were right with God but in your heart you had doubts. And because He loves you so much he saw those doubts and spared us all. We have yet another chance. Is God's Mercy not great? Rejoice Rejoice etc. etc."
And round and round it goes.
This isn't healthy.
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F myrmepropagandist shared this topic
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"Yes we all really thought that the day had come but God Almighty has seen fit to spare us. And isn't that a blessing? Because I know there are some of you among us who *said* you were right with God but in your heart you had doubts. And because He loves you so much he saw those doubts and spared us all. We have yet another chance. Is God's Mercy not great? Rejoice Rejoice etc. etc."
And round and round it goes.
This isn't healthy.
It's cruel and wicked to scare people like that, then lie to them and tell them their rightful feelings of betrayal and mistrust are just another reason why they need to follow you, a human person around even more.
It's frankly evil.
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Somethings going around amongst the American Evangelicals and people on tiktok are saying the rapture, will happen on the 23rd or 24th. This happens every few years and nothing is learned.
But, technically *I'm* an evangelical Christian. I went to a baptist church for all my youth and mysteriously didn't have any of the traumatic experiences I've heard about. Never heard a word about "rapture"
Mostly just a lot of "if you think you are saved you probably aren't BE BETTER"
@futurebird I mean, churches can be wildly different. Even within evangelical churches - especially back when we were growing up when the national denominations weren't QUITE as eager to kick out churches who didn't follow their hatred 100%. Also, from what I've heard at least, Black Baptist churches have always had a way different vibe (assuming you went to a majority Black church? Might be a mistaken assumption on my part).
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@futurebird I mean, churches can be wildly different. Even within evangelical churches - especially back when we were growing up when the national denominations weren't QUITE as eager to kick out churches who didn't follow their hatred 100%. Also, from what I've heard at least, Black Baptist churches have always had a way different vibe (assuming you went to a majority Black church? Might be a mistaken assumption on my part).
Not mistaken.
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It's cruel and wicked to scare people like that, then lie to them and tell them their rightful feelings of betrayal and mistrust are just another reason why they need to follow you, a human person around even more.
It's frankly evil.
I'm thinking more about the psychology of how this works. Because from the outside it's easy to point and laugh "how do you keep falling for this?"
But thinking that something terrible could happen, The End Is Near is terrifying. So, you and your closest friends and family all go through this traumatic experience together. The relief of it not happening brings you closer
As does the pointing an laughing.
I think some leading know this.
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It's cruel and wicked to scare people like that, then lie to them and tell them their rightful feelings of betrayal and mistrust are just another reason why they need to follow you, a human person around even more.
It's frankly evil.
@futurebird I feel like if Jesus did exist today, he’d consider all organized religions to be wicked
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@futurebird I feel like if Jesus did exist today, he’d consider all organized religions to be wicked
@futurebird and he would DEFINITELY have some ugly things to say about Paul
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I'm thinking more about the psychology of how this works. Because from the outside it's easy to point and laugh "how do you keep falling for this?"
But thinking that something terrible could happen, The End Is Near is terrifying. So, you and your closest friends and family all go through this traumatic experience together. The relief of it not happening brings you closer
As does the pointing an laughing.
I think some leading know this.
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@futurebird I thought it *wasn’t* supposed to be terrible for Evangelicals — they go directly (and bodily[?]) to heaven. The Left Behind novels practically drip with the schadenfreude of the “saved”.
That's one of the things I have a hard time even relating to. That cocksure swagger and bragging about how certain some of these people are they they will go right to heaven. Seems like a bit of hubris to me.
But also? It feels like too much protesting. It's a terrifying concept. What if you missed something? What if you got something wrong?
And a lot of the stories play on these fear and make them very real.
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Somethings going around amongst the American Evangelicals and people on tiktok are saying the rapture, will happen on the 23rd or 24th. This happens every few years and nothing is learned.
But, technically *I'm* an evangelical Christian. I went to a baptist church for all my youth and mysteriously didn't have any of the traumatic experiences I've heard about. Never heard a word about "rapture"
Mostly just a lot of "if you think you are saved you probably aren't BE BETTER"
@futurebird From my personal vantage point and life experience, I was
raised evangelical from the 1970s on (until I "backslid and turned away from the narrow road and ran down the wide road to hell." It was rapture, rapture, rapture from my first memory.I remember watching a movie when I was around 10, I'm in my 50s not about being "left behind" rapture movies.
My late father-in-law (married since 1990) was a Baptist preacher and evangelist for around 65 years. I don't think it was until the mid-2000s until their doctrine started to bend and changed until I would have considered them (being Baptists) as part of the evangelical crowd as it is known as today...
That is my perspective.
These were the actual movies you'd watch in Bible School as young pre-teens and teens:
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@futurebird and he would DEFINITELY have some ugly things to say about Paul
@twipped @futurebird I privately call Christianity Paulianity. The Letters are full of appalling shit.
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@twipped @futurebird I privately call Christianity Paulianity. The Letters are full of appalling shit.
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Somethings going around amongst the American Evangelicals and people on tiktok are saying the rapture, will happen on the 23rd or 24th. This happens every few years and nothing is learned.
But, technically *I'm* an evangelical Christian. I went to a baptist church for all my youth and mysteriously didn't have any of the traumatic experiences I've heard about. Never heard a word about "rapture"
Mostly just a lot of "if you think you are saved you probably aren't BE BETTER"
@futurebird Probably non-coincidentally, those are the dates of the days of Rosh HaShannah.
Unsurprisingly, they didn’t get the message that the world is supposed to end on Yom Kippur, ten days later.
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@futurebird Probably non-coincidentally, those are the dates of the days of Rosh HaShannah.
Unsurprisingly, they didn’t get the message that the world is supposed to end on Yom Kippur, ten days later.
They get really excited about the people blowing the horns. It's not very deep at all.
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Somethings going around amongst the American Evangelicals and people on tiktok are saying the rapture, will happen on the 23rd or 24th. This happens every few years and nothing is learned.
But, technically *I'm* an evangelical Christian. I went to a baptist church for all my youth and mysteriously didn't have any of the traumatic experiences I've heard about. Never heard a word about "rapture"
Mostly just a lot of "if you think you are saved you probably aren't BE BETTER"
@futurebird I thought Public Enemy was the rap true.
