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Ants are the graph theory of biology.

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  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

    * Anyone can understand some of the big questions in graph theory
    * People think graph theory is "great for kids" for some reason (yeah if you want them to be obsessed with unproved theorems for their whole life)
    * It's very easy to get very deep in graph theory and VERY lost. Easy to state problems with no solutions
    * You just know it's all CONNECTED and it's going to drive you nuts forever

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    @futurebird

    Obsessed with algorithms too. Which have their own complexities if you want to integrate them in proofs... or want to prove their correctness.

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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      * Anyone can understand some of the big questions in graph theory
      * People think graph theory is "great for kids" for some reason (yeah if you want them to be obsessed with unproved theorems for their whole life)
      * It's very easy to get very deep in graph theory and VERY lost. Easy to state problems with no solutions
      * You just know it's all CONNECTED and it's going to drive you nuts forever

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      @futurebird brb, I'm off to google graph theory.

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        * Anyone can understand some of the big questions in graph theory
        * People think graph theory is "great for kids" for some reason (yeah if you want them to be obsessed with unproved theorems for their whole life)
        * It's very easy to get very deep in graph theory and VERY lost. Easy to state problems with no solutions
        * You just know it's all CONNECTED and it's going to drive you nuts forever

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        @futurebird Good for kids because you can draw the graphs in crayons!

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          * Anyone can understand some of the big questions in graph theory
          * People think graph theory is "great for kids" for some reason (yeah if you want them to be obsessed with unproved theorems for their whole life)
          * It's very easy to get very deep in graph theory and VERY lost. Easy to state problems with no solutions
          * You just know it's all CONNECTED and it's going to drive you nuts forever

          myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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          The "math most likely to make you mad" is continuum theory. But the math that will most reliably lead to a being fixated on it?

          Graph Theory.

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            @futurebird Good for kids because you can draw the graphs in crayons!

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            @apLundell

            every child is a node

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              * Anyone can understand some of the big questions in graph theory
              * People think graph theory is "great for kids" for some reason (yeah if you want them to be obsessed with unproved theorems for their whole life)
              * It's very easy to get very deep in graph theory and VERY lost. Easy to state problems with no solutions
              * You just know it's all CONNECTED and it's going to drive you nuts forever

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              @futurebird having studied graph theory in my undergrad and deciding I liked enumeration better, you got a chuckle out of me

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              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                Ants are the graph theory of biology.

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                @futurebird I'm a mathematician and I approve this message. 😂

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  * Anyone can understand some of the big questions in graph theory
                  * People think graph theory is "great for kids" for some reason (yeah if you want them to be obsessed with unproved theorems for their whole life)
                  * It's very easy to get very deep in graph theory and VERY lost. Easy to state problems with no solutions
                  * You just know it's all CONNECTED and it's going to drive you nuts forever

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                  @futurebird I wasn't taught graph theory but it sounds like something that I would not have enjoyed at all. One of the merits of math was that you were supposed to be able to get to a correct answer. Such a beautiful aspect that is so rare in life.

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                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                    The "math most likely to make you mad" is continuum theory. But the math that will most reliably lead to a being fixated on it?

                    Graph Theory.

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                    @futurebird graph theory and primes are absolutely gateway drugs

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                    • thethuthinnangP thethuthinnang

                      @futurebird I wasn't taught graph theory but it sounds like something that I would not have enjoyed at all. One of the merits of math was that you were supposed to be able to get to a correct answer. Such a beautiful aspect that is so rare in life.

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                      @photovotary

                      It's still math. There are still right answers. Especially for the combinatorics problems you do as you build up to some of the theorems.

                      It's just a lot of theorems are easy to state, sound reasonable but hard or unproven.

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                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                        * Anyone can understand some of the big questions in graph theory
                        * People think graph theory is "great for kids" for some reason (yeah if you want them to be obsessed with unproved theorems for their whole life)
                        * It's very easy to get very deep in graph theory and VERY lost. Easy to state problems with no solutions
                        * You just know it's all CONNECTED and it's going to drive you nuts forever

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                        @futurebird Graph theory is good from a "not all math is about numbers" perspective. But it really isn't that approachable. That's one of two classes I dropped in graduate school. And I have papers published in graph theory. 😅

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                        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                          @photovotary

                          It's still math. There are still right answers. Especially for the combinatorics problems you do as you build up to some of the theorems.

                          It's just a lot of theorems are easy to state, sound reasonable but hard or unproven.

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                          @futurebird Oh, I see. I misunderstood what you meant. Thanks.

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                          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                            The "math most likely to make you mad" is continuum theory. But the math that will most reliably lead to a being fixated on it?

                            Graph Theory.

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                            @futurebird it's how you get that gaunt, haunted look that Veritasium's animators like in mathematicians.

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                            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                              The "math most likely to make you mad" is continuum theory. But the math that will most reliably lead to a being fixated on it?

                              Graph Theory.

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                              @futurebird Yes! Graph Theory is such a darling of beauty and frustration.

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                              • Faith 26 :v_tg: :v_lb: :v_greyace:F Faith 26 :v_tg: :v_lb: :v_greyace:

                                @futurebird Graph theory is good from a "not all math is about numbers" perspective. But it really isn't that approachable. That's one of two classes I dropped in graduate school. And I have papers published in graph theory. 😅

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                                @futurebird Geometry is probably a little more approachable and still mostly number-free but IDK that is that much better. Knot theory, maybe? That might be worse.

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                                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                  * Anyone can understand some of the big questions in graph theory
                                  * People think graph theory is "great for kids" for some reason (yeah if you want them to be obsessed with unproved theorems for their whole life)
                                  * It's very easy to get very deep in graph theory and VERY lost. Easy to state problems with no solutions
                                  * You just know it's all CONNECTED and it's going to drive you nuts forever

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                                  @futurebird "graph theory has too many unproven theorems" actually just statistical error. average graph theorist has 0 unproven theorems. Cantors Georg, who lives in a cave & posits over 10,000 theorems a day, is an outlier adn should not have been counter

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                                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                    The "math most likely to make you mad" is continuum theory. But the math that will most reliably lead to a being fixated on it?

                                    Graph Theory.

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                                    @futurebird Graph theory is great because any time I have a problem that needs it, my mathematician colleagues will line up to help with it.

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                                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                      * Anyone can understand some of the big questions in graph theory
                                      * People think graph theory is "great for kids" for some reason (yeah if you want them to be obsessed with unproved theorems for their whole life)
                                      * It's very easy to get very deep in graph theory and VERY lost. Easy to state problems with no solutions
                                      * You just know it's all CONNECTED and it's going to drive you nuts forever

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                                      @futurebird can confirm, am insane and graph theorist

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                                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                        @photovotary

                                        It's still math. There are still right answers. Especially for the combinatorics problems you do as you build up to some of the theorems.

                                        It's just a lot of theorems are easy to state, sound reasonable but hard or unproven.

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                                        @futurebird@sauropods.win @photovotary@beige.party some like 4-color theorem has a very unsatisfyingly inelegant proof
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                                        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                          * Anyone can understand some of the big questions in graph theory
                                          * People think graph theory is "great for kids" for some reason (yeah if you want them to be obsessed with unproved theorems for their whole life)
                                          * It's very easy to get very deep in graph theory and VERY lost. Easy to state problems with no solutions
                                          * You just know it's all CONNECTED and it's going to drive you nuts forever

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                                          @futurebird graph theory is extremely useful but only after you have linear algebra

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