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Ants are the graph theory of biology.

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  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

    The "math most likely to make you mad" is continuum theory. But the math that will most reliably lead to a being fixated on it?

    Graph Theory.

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    @futurebird Yes! Graph Theory is such a darling of beauty and frustration.

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    • Faith 26 :v_tg: :v_lb: :v_greyace:F Faith 26 :v_tg: :v_lb: :v_greyace:

      @futurebird Graph theory is good from a "not all math is about numbers" perspective. But it really isn't that approachable. That's one of two classes I dropped in graduate school. And I have papers published in graph theory. 😅

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      @futurebird Geometry is probably a little more approachable and still mostly number-free but IDK that is that much better. Knot theory, maybe? That might be worse.

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        * Anyone can understand some of the big questions in graph theory
        * People think graph theory is "great for kids" for some reason (yeah if you want them to be obsessed with unproved theorems for their whole life)
        * It's very easy to get very deep in graph theory and VERY lost. Easy to state problems with no solutions
        * You just know it's all CONNECTED and it's going to drive you nuts forever

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        @futurebird "graph theory has too many unproven theorems" actually just statistical error. average graph theorist has 0 unproven theorems. Cantors Georg, who lives in a cave & posits over 10,000 theorems a day, is an outlier adn should not have been counter

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          The "math most likely to make you mad" is continuum theory. But the math that will most reliably lead to a being fixated on it?

          Graph Theory.

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          @futurebird Graph theory is great because any time I have a problem that needs it, my mathematician colleagues will line up to help with it.

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          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

            * Anyone can understand some of the big questions in graph theory
            * People think graph theory is "great for kids" for some reason (yeah if you want them to be obsessed with unproved theorems for their whole life)
            * It's very easy to get very deep in graph theory and VERY lost. Easy to state problems with no solutions
            * You just know it's all CONNECTED and it's going to drive you nuts forever

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            @futurebird can confirm, am insane and graph theorist

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              @photovotary

              It's still math. There are still right answers. Especially for the combinatorics problems you do as you build up to some of the theorems.

              It's just a lot of theorems are easy to state, sound reasonable but hard or unproven.

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              @futurebird@sauropods.win @photovotary@beige.party some like 4-color theorem has a very unsatisfyingly inelegant proof
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              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                * Anyone can understand some of the big questions in graph theory
                * People think graph theory is "great for kids" for some reason (yeah if you want them to be obsessed with unproved theorems for their whole life)
                * It's very easy to get very deep in graph theory and VERY lost. Easy to state problems with no solutions
                * You just know it's all CONNECTED and it's going to drive you nuts forever

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                @futurebird graph theory is extremely useful but only after you have linear algebra

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  * Anyone can understand some of the big questions in graph theory
                  * People think graph theory is "great for kids" for some reason (yeah if you want them to be obsessed with unproved theorems for their whole life)
                  * It's very easy to get very deep in graph theory and VERY lost. Easy to state problems with no solutions
                  * You just know it's all CONNECTED and it's going to drive you nuts forever

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                  @futurebird I saw a video recently talking about how there is only one infinite random graph and had my mind blown, I can see it driving people mad

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                  • OrmanO Orman

                    @futurebird I saw a video recently talking about how there is only one infinite random graph and had my mind blown, I can see it driving people mad

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                    @orman @futurebird hey i saw that video too

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                      @futurebird graph theory is extremely useful but only after you have linear algebra

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                      @futurebird graph theory is a tool for turning any problem into a linear algebra problem, or for getting visual intuition for unintuitive linear algebra problems

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                      • OrmanO Orman

                        @futurebird I saw a video recently talking about how there is only one infinite random graph and had my mind blown, I can see it driving people mad

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                        @orman @futurebird *knowing I may regret this, and yet* Imma need that link

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                        • Jon WilliamsS Jon Williams

                          @orman @futurebird *knowing I may regret this, and yet* Imma need that link

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                          @shovemedia @orman

                          I will add it to #fediverseTV

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                          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                            @shovemedia @orman

                            I will add it to #fediverseTV

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                            @futurebird @shovemedia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNWl-0rle4A

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                            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                              The "math most likely to make you mad" is continuum theory. But the math that will most reliably lead to a being fixated on it?

                              Graph Theory.

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                              @futurebird I learned a tiny bit of queueing theory and that’s the one I can’t get out of my head. I see it everywhere, of course. Traffic. The grocery store. The airport. Restaurants. I know enough to say “I bet there’s some queuing theory principle that explains this” but not enough to know more than that. 😀

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                              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                Ants are the graph theory of biology.

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                                @futurebird for a quarter of a century I thought cladistics was the graph theory of biology!

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