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Are you ready for a $1,000 Steam Machine? Some analysts think you should be.

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  • ? Guest
    Just saying The steam deck was 600€ The steam Maschine is 4x faster I think your math dosent math
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    Wont be that low, but Steam Deck needed a screen, battery, portable form factor, and inputs. So just needing a case and less size and battery power restrictions might make it easier to do more with the same money for the same reason smartphones can be more expensive than PCs and laptops and consoles because of the use case expected of them and the challenge portability adds.
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      No. It's going to be sub PS5 in terms of performance and should be priced accordingly. You can make the argument that games are a bit cheaper on Steam so they can maybe charge a premium for that, but I would only consider one if it could do the things my PS5 does at a similar price.
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      I've wondered for lot of PC gamers why they don't get a fiber optic hdmi cable to connect their PC to the TV, since seems a waste to have such a powerful machine then be stuck to a monitor when playing a cinematic graphics driven title like Cyberpunk 2077. Makes sense if the PC is on another floor ot too far to not do it. But, I've seen 30m hdmi 2.1 fiber optic cables that can push 4k/120 over that distance.
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        What is the competition on Linux? What’s their market share?
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        Heroic launcher lets you install games from other launchers although Steam experience is better. But, biggest thing is you can just install Windows, which those who play games that refuse to enable anticheat on Linux will end up doing if this is going to be their main PC.
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          I've wondered for lot of PC gamers why they don't get a fiber optic hdmi cable to connect their PC to the TV, since seems a waste to have such a powerful machine then be stuck to a monitor when playing a cinematic graphics driven title like Cyberpunk 2077. Makes sense if the PC is on another floor ot too far to not do it. But, I've seen 30m hdmi 2.1 fiber optic cables that can push 4k/120 over that distance.
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          That alone wouldn't solve most of the problems of playing on the couch.
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            How do you feel about Google requiring apps to be notarised by them to run? How do you feel about locked bootloaders? I outlined steps that are required to get there and where Valve is on that timeline.
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            They got to do that because for PC you can Frankenstein random hardware so you aren't at the mercy of prebuilt OEM options. Now look at phones and see how easy it is to make your own from scratch with parts. Then look at OEMs and how many will even let you unlock the bootloader. Then look at how many iOS options there are for phones not from Apple. Mobile hardware freedom was dead from the get go compared to PC.
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              That alone wouldn't solve most of the problems of playing on the couch.
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              Does for me since my main goal is to sit on the couch and use a controller and be able to take advantage of the 4k resolution and the 120 hz panel with freesync on a larger screen and HDR.
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                ...I might pick up the controller if it's not a hundred bucks.
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                Going on off the price of the dualsense edge we will be lucky if it is only a 100 bucks.
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                  Going on off the price of the dualsense edge we will be lucky if it is only a 100 bucks.
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                  The original steam controller was $50, I would hope they'd be able to keep it under $100. Not to mention a steamdeck is $400, and that's got a lot more going on than just a controller.
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                    The original steam controller was $50, I would hope they'd be able to keep it under $100. Not to mention a steamdeck is $400, and that's got a lot more going on than just a controller.
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                    Original Steam controller felt like it was made with really cheap looking materials to cut costs. This controller looks like the build quality is much more premium and has a lot of inputs and tech put in than the expensive Xbox Elite. The dualsense edge getting removable joysticks and grips raised the price too. So when its those controllers that this controller will be closer to in terms of features than the base Sony and Xbox controllers. Being only $100 would be a bargain.
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                      The title is a bit misleading, as the article lists diverging analysts’ opinions, ranging from Valve willing to sell at a loss or low margins, to high prices due to RAM and SSD price volatility. cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blackeco.com/post/2330473
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                      *Some analysts think* Great headline
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                        Honestly, they could sell at a loss and still profit. Steam has the biggest selection of games bar none, they've built a culture of buying games too collect them with no intention of playing them, and they get a decent cut of every sale. If they thought of it as a 10 year plan they could sell this thing for $400, and undercut the entire rest of the condole scene, land this in the living room of every kid who wants to game world wide, and literally crush the big 3 in sales.
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                        And then Microsoft or Sony would bulk buy 10k steam machines to use in their server rooms. They can't sell at a loss because the hardware is not locked, otherwise people could just buy these and use them for whatever and Valve wouldn't see a cent from those machines. At the very least they need to be sold at a neutral price point, but more than likely they're looking to get some profit over them.
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                        • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                          I wasn't referring to Goop the company, I was referring to this: https://decibelics.com/klon-guide/ ![](https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/pictrs/image/933c255b-52b4-4464-9ecd-aa1acef30ac7.webp) The creator of the pedal covered the circuitboard in some type of tar or something to prevent people from copying the circuit (it's pretty trivial to do with analog guitar pedals). Anyway, I can see that you have no interest in considering that you might be wrong here... If you haven't messed with a Steam Deck, I suggest you check it out. Because it's literally just a Linux PC in a handheld form factor. You can avoid Steam altogether on it if you want.
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                          Lol, for someone who’s been proven to be factually wrong and talking out of ass multiple times already in this single thread you seem incredibly confident that I’m wrong.
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                            Heroic launcher lets you install games from other launchers although Steam experience is better. But, biggest thing is you can just install Windows, which those who play games that refuse to enable anticheat on Linux will end up doing if this is going to be their main PC.
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                            Does Heroic launcher guarantee that the game you bought will not break Wine compatibility when patched by the developer? What kind of consumer experience are you trying to sell here?
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                              They got to do that because for PC you can Frankenstein random hardware so you aren't at the mercy of prebuilt OEM options. Now look at phones and see how easy it is to make your own from scratch with parts. Then look at OEMs and how many will even let you unlock the bootloader. Then look at how many iOS options there are for phones not from Apple. Mobile hardware freedom was dead from the get go compared to PC.
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                              Are you sure that’s relevant when every major Android OEM locks their bootloaders now? Illusion of an open system.
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                                Are you sure that’s relevant when every major Android OEM locks their bootloaders now? Illusion of an open system.
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                                When has Android been open? How many people do you know building their own parts to make their own Android phone from random parts? Android has mostly been at the mercy of OEM prebuilts.
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                                  Does Heroic launcher guarantee that the game you bought will not break Wine compatibility when patched by the developer? What kind of consumer experience are you trying to sell here?
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                                  What's to keep Windows from deciding to get rid of allowing people to install any exe? What's to stop them from deciding to charge a 30% fee of all transactions from exes that they allow to be published? Whats to stop them from banning Steam, Epic, GOG from existing on their OS so everything is through the Microsoft Store? What if? What if?
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                                    People seriously underestimate the performance that you can pull out a medium-level hardware with some highly-optimized OS. I mean, just watch what they were able to archive with the Deck.
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                                    Seriously! Just started replaying cyberpunk on my base model deck and it is buttery smooth! Very impressive for an igpu!
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                                      I'm not the target audience (beefy gaming pc) but I love the concept and what it'll do to further indie gaming. It'll probably also pull people from consoles to pc gaming. Valve can't stop winning.
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                                      I have an old old old gaming rig think 2 270s sli'd with a second Gen i7. I would totally buy this thing at $600. I'm so impressed with the steam deck, that I might actually try some vr if I have the spare change.
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                                        What's to keep Windows from deciding to get rid of allowing people to install any exe? What's to stop them from deciding to charge a 30% fee of all transactions from exes that they allow to be published? Whats to stop them from banning Steam, Epic, GOG from existing on their OS so everything is through the Microsoft Store? What if? What if?
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                                        What stops Windows? Business consumers. What stops Valve?
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                                        • W wolflink@sh.itjust.works
                                          The controller is going to be closer to $200
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                                          Ain't no way. I got my steam deck during the first sale for around $330. There is no way their controller based off it will cost about half of something that came with a screen, soc, and bigger battery.
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