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Are you ready for a $1,000 Steam Machine? Some analysts think you should be.

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    They got to do that because for PC you can Frankenstein random hardware so you aren't at the mercy of prebuilt OEM options. Now look at phones and see how easy it is to make your own from scratch with parts. Then look at OEMs and how many will even let you unlock the bootloader. Then look at how many iOS options there are for phones not from Apple. Mobile hardware freedom was dead from the get go compared to PC.
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    Are you sure that’s relevant when every major Android OEM locks their bootloaders now? Illusion of an open system.
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      Are you sure that’s relevant when every major Android OEM locks their bootloaders now? Illusion of an open system.
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      When has Android been open? How many people do you know building their own parts to make their own Android phone from random parts? Android has mostly been at the mercy of OEM prebuilts.
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        Does Heroic launcher guarantee that the game you bought will not break Wine compatibility when patched by the developer? What kind of consumer experience are you trying to sell here?
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        What's to keep Windows from deciding to get rid of allowing people to install any exe? What's to stop them from deciding to charge a 30% fee of all transactions from exes that they allow to be published? Whats to stop them from banning Steam, Epic, GOG from existing on their OS so everything is through the Microsoft Store? What if? What if?
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          People seriously underestimate the performance that you can pull out a medium-level hardware with some highly-optimized OS. I mean, just watch what they were able to archive with the Deck.
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          Seriously! Just started replaying cyberpunk on my base model deck and it is buttery smooth! Very impressive for an igpu!
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            I'm not the target audience (beefy gaming pc) but I love the concept and what it'll do to further indie gaming. It'll probably also pull people from consoles to pc gaming. Valve can't stop winning.
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            I have an old old old gaming rig think 2 270s sli'd with a second Gen i7. I would totally buy this thing at $600. I'm so impressed with the steam deck, that I might actually try some vr if I have the spare change.
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              What's to keep Windows from deciding to get rid of allowing people to install any exe? What's to stop them from deciding to charge a 30% fee of all transactions from exes that they allow to be published? Whats to stop them from banning Steam, Epic, GOG from existing on their OS so everything is through the Microsoft Store? What if? What if?
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              What stops Windows? Business consumers. What stops Valve?
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                The controller is going to be closer to $200
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                Ain't no way. I got my steam deck during the first sale for around $330. There is no way their controller based off it will cost about half of something that came with a screen, soc, and bigger battery.
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                  When has Android been open? How many people do you know building their own parts to make their own Android phone from random parts? Android has mostly been at the mercy of OEM prebuilts.
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                  There’s been definitely way more people running custom roms 10 years ago. Xiaomi got a start with a custom rom.
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                    Good guess. For reference, [Xbox series X](https://www.xbox.com/en-US/consoles/xbox-series-x) without optical drive is $600 currently. [PS5 Pro](https://direct.playstation.com/en-us/buy-consoles/playstation5-pro-console) without optical drive is $750 currently. The specs on Valve Machine seem more similar to PS5 Pro, I think.
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                    The hardware is stronger than Xbox Series S but weaker than *base* PS5. It doesn't even get close to PS5 Pro. I recommend watching Digital Foundry video about it. This article is pure sensationalism and speculation. The reason GabeCube's hardware is mid is because it was made with affordability in mind. It's supposed to be cheaper than if you would build a regular PC with similar specs. Expect something around $500 price point.
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                      The title is a bit misleading, as the article lists diverging analysts’ opinions, ranging from Valve willing to sell at a loss or low margins, to high prices due to RAM and SSD price volatility. cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blackeco.com/post/2330473
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                      For $1k I think this would be DOA.
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                        I don't think it would make sense for them to sell it at a loss. On the other hand, they don't have to make a huge profit from it either. I really hope it'll come down to a range of about €600. That would make it a no-brainer for me.
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                        Benefits of being a non publicly traded company, they can actually take risks which they did with the deck. It performed way better than they expected, so while they might not sell it at a loss they will definitely be competitive. I mean considering development costs, it has an integrated on board but discreet GPU, so the r&d budget will be factored in. But I honestly don't see it >$700. Without knowing the exact chipset they're using that is. But memory is the big cost constraint right now thanks to ai.
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                          Ain't no way. I got my steam deck during the first sale for around $330. There is no way their controller based off it will cost about half of something that came with a screen, soc, and bigger battery.
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                          Ps5 controller is like $70, the Steam Controller has more features than that, and the OG Steam Controller was pretty expensive. I’d be shocked if it’s under $100. I’m expecting it in the $150-$200 range. But we’ll see, I’d love to be proven wrong
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                            The rumor is that the cpu in the steam machine is leftover from another AMD partnership with Microsoft. The GPU is a mobile GPU that AMD had a hard time selling. It's about the same performance as a PS5, though valve won't be subsidizing it as much. I'd bet $600-$800.
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                            Very safe bet. I'm hoping for it being closer to $600 but I know I don't need it, I don't need it, I don't need it. Sorry I have to keep reminding myself. But I'm very excited for it to bring affordable and seamless Linux gaming to the masses.
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                              The hardware is stronger than Xbox Series S but weaker than *base* PS5. It doesn't even get close to PS5 Pro. I recommend watching Digital Foundry video about it. This article is pure sensationalism and speculation. The reason GabeCube's hardware is mid is because it was made with affordability in mind. It's supposed to be cheaper than if you would build a regular PC with similar specs. Expect something around $500 price point.
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                              Thanks for the correction. Obviously an uninformed opinion on my part. Although I was also thinking they would try to make it price competitive with current consoles.
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                                Just saying The steam deck was 600€ The steam Maschine is 4x faster I think your math dosent math
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                                Bro, the steam deck was $400 for the base model when new. I got a base model for $330 a few months after release. $400 is really low for this, but it also doesn't have a screen and battery. I'm guessing (hoping) for $600 base model.
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                                  Ps5 controller is like $70, the Steam Controller has more features than that, and the OG Steam Controller was pretty expensive. I’d be shocked if it’s under $100. I’m expecting it in the $150-$200 range. But we’ll see, I’d love to be proven wrong
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                                  Cool, let's have a gentleperson's bet. I'm going sub $100.
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                                    Does for me since my main goal is to sit on the couch and use a controller and be able to take advantage of the 4k resolution and the 120 hz panel with freesync on a larger screen and HDR.
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                                    You still need a controller that will go that far and an OS/frontend that works on the TV.
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                                      The title is a bit misleading, as the article lists diverging analysts’ opinions, ranging from Valve willing to sell at a loss or low margins, to high prices due to RAM and SSD price volatility. cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blackeco.com/post/2330473
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                                      From the GPU specs in expecting a firmly mid range machine. Probably about the price of a PS5 Pro, but with the performance of a base PS5.
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                                        You still need a controller that will go that far and an OS/frontend that works on the TV.
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                                        Not an issue either. If you can have the money for a fiber optic hdmi cable then you have the money for a powered usb cable to extend then wireless range.
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                                          Seriously! Just started replaying cyberpunk on my base model deck and it is buttery smooth! Very impressive for an igpu!
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                                          Yes, but also consider you are running a more updated, optimized version of Cyberpunk than what everyone experienced when it first launched (and more optimized drivers/FSR/etc). So the true performance gains of mid-low range hardware is masked by the fact that the game is not so horribly unoptimized anymore. In other words, the actual performance increase of hardware over the years is perceived to be higher than it actually is due to other factors.
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