Bro, the steam deck was $400 for the base model when new. I got a base model for $330 a few months after release. $400 is really low for this, but it also doesn't have a screen and battery. I'm guessing (hoping) for $600 base model.

Cool, let's have a gentleperson's bet. I'm going sub $100.

You still need a controller that will go that far and an OS/frontend that works on the TV.

From the GPU specs in expecting a firmly mid range machine. Probably about the price of a PS5 Pro, but with the performance of a base PS5.

Not an issue either. If you can have the money for a fiber optic hdmi cable then you have the money for a powered usb cable to extend then wireless range.

Yes, but also consider you are running a more updated, optimized version of Cyberpunk than what everyone experienced when it first launched (and more optimized drivers/FSR/etc). So the true performance gains of mid-low range hardware is masked by the fact that the game is not so horribly unoptimized anymore. In other words, the actual performance increase of hardware over the years is perceived to be higher than it actually is due to other factors.

Yeah, if it isn't like $600 USD or less, the thing is as toast as the previous generation of Steam Machines.

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I've tried these couch keyboard mouse setups and they always suck.

I'm using the k400 to navigate desktop. I'm using my controller to play games.

Not an experience I would want personally. But that's one of the differences between me and a PC gamer, PC gamers are happy to put up with a lot more crap with their gaming than I am.

No more crap than just playing on a monitor.

Well at a desk you don't have to pull out the keyboard from wherever you stash it and put it on your lap every time you want to change games. It's already there. But of course I am comparing to console gaming where this option is a lot more crap in comparison.

They could sell me a wrapped up bc250 and I'd still buy it before any other brand just because.

Steam picture mode you don't even need to bother with that. It can all be done through controller. If you are familiar with Steam Deck that's basically big picture mode.

It's likely in everybody's best interest that this succeeds. Not only will game developers be incentivized to actually optimize their games for reasonable setups, this will unseat NVIDIA's monopoly over gamers with their overpriced graphics cards and also Microsoft's monopoly on a gamer's operating system. NVIDIA's partnership with Palantir is a great reason to boycott them and encourage these developments and hype this all up.

Yeah I haven't tried big picture mode lately but as I remember you still had to sometimes deal with keyboard and mouse to fix options or sometime edit files on the computer to make things work well on a given hardware. But maybe it's improved since then.

Well yeah that's just comes with being a PC. But, if you already got your games set up not really much need to do troubleshooting when TV gaming. Like you can go on and on and on trying to find issues, but main point is for PC gamers who already have a gaming PC hdmi cable and controller is generally all that is needed to game on the TV. So they can save on needing another system just for the purpose of playing on a TV.

Yeah I'm sure for a lot of PC gamers this will be fine. It remains to be seen if the Steam Machine is really the couch experience I would accept or not. If it involves a keyboard and mouse it's not. Been there, done that, not going back. I think it will probably be priced outside of what I'd be willing to pay for something of this spec anyway. At the end of the day, consoles do a lot of things very well for the price and are a good value if you don't have a very large game library. On the Sony store you can still pick most stuff up on pretty steep discounts if you wait a bit and put it on a watchlist.

Pretty much why in my first comment it was addressing PC gamers to try using a HDMI if they want to play on the TV. Wasn't directed towards console gamers to get a PC. Steam machine will require same troubleshooting, since it is in the end a PC that lets you install any games even if it isn't compatible. And will require sometimes to go to a site like protondb to see which proton version is compatible to get the game running. Steam machine is more an entry for those interested in getting into PCs that isnt super expensive.