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Are you ready for a $1,000 Steam Machine? Some analysts think you should be.

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  • R righthandofikaros@lemmy.world
    Yes, but also consider you are running a more updated, optimized version of Cyberpunk than what everyone experienced when it first launched (and more optimized drivers/FSR/etc). So the true performance gains of mid-low range hardware is masked by the fact that the game is not so horribly unoptimized anymore. In other words, the actual performance increase of hardware over the years is perceived to be higher than it actually is due to other factors.
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    So the problem was the game, not the device...? The hardware was fine?
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      It's likely in everybody's best interest that this succeeds. Not only will game developers be incentivized to actually optimize their games for reasonable setups, this will unseat NVIDIA's monopoly over gamers with their overpriced graphics cards and also Microsoft's monopoly on a gamer's operating system. NVIDIA's partnership with Palantir is a great reason to boycott them and encourage these developments and hype this all up.
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      Yaaas let's smash the Nvidia monopoly and Palantir's evil plans.
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        And then Microsoft or Sony would bulk buy 10k steam machines to use in their server rooms. They can't sell at a loss because the hardware is not locked, otherwise people could just buy these and use them for whatever and Valve wouldn't see a cent from those machines. At the very least they need to be sold at a neutral price point, but more than likely they're looking to get some profit over them.
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        > And then Microsoft or Sony would bulk buy 10k steam machines to use in their server rooms They'd need 10k steam accounts tho
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        • R righthandofikaros@lemmy.world
          Yes, but also consider you are running a more updated, optimized version of Cyberpunk than what everyone experienced when it first launched (and more optimized drivers/FSR/etc). So the true performance gains of mid-low range hardware is masked by the fact that the game is not so horribly unoptimized anymore. In other words, the actual performance increase of hardware over the years is perceived to be higher than it actually is due to other factors.
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          You know what's wild? I was a day one buyer on a $30 rebuilt PS4, and had almost no bugs my first 2 playthroughs.
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            While I think you’re ultimately right, 6 years ago I would have said the same thing about the Steam Deck idea, so I’m compelled to offer counterpoints. Valve, very uniquely, does offer *the best* Linux-based digital games storefront to use on that Linux gaming PC you bought. So, they’re very much positioned to take advantage of the hardware purchase. Users aren’t “locked in”, but they are compelled in, and users may have a smoother time getting games on Steam than trying to set up controller-based launchers on Heroic or something. It’s like when the pet isn’t literally fenced into the house, and is allowed to roam free, but is reminded that its fluffy toy and warm meals are all back at home, so it’ll never go far. Valve also might just be more forward-thinking than ~~most game companies~~ most COMPANIES these days. They build goodwill this way and get people obsessed with their brand by having more wins like this.
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            GABECUBE > anything from anyone. I have good faith in Steam. Besides Arizona drinks and Costco food court there really is no other corporation I want to give money to if I can help it.
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              The title is a bit misleading, as the article lists diverging analysts’ opinions, ranging from Valve willing to sell at a loss or low margins, to high prices due to RAM and SSD price volatility. cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blackeco.com/post/2330473
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              Number of investors think you should be willing to invest in a machine that you probably don't have money for to enrich them. They think you should buy games at $70 or something instead of wait for them to be $30 like on sale. Like I wait. Not all of us want to be in debt.
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                Wasn't the OG steam controller $50 ?
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                I got the steam link for ~$10 but that was after it was discontinued.
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                  For $1k I think this would be DOA.
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                  It's a PC after all, and Valve has access to chipsets the average consumer normally doesn't. I can see me upgrading my current rig with this if it competes with traditional PCs
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                    > And then Microsoft or Sony would bulk buy 10k steam machines to use in their server rooms They'd need 10k steam accounts tho
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                    Yes, it would be very difficult for the owners @outlook to create 10k accounts.
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                      For $1k I think this would be DOA.
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                      You can always just build your own today even.
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                        You can always just build your own today even.
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                        Yeah but this is what I mean. Valve buying in bulk would be able to offer a better deal than someone try to build their own…
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                          Original Steam controller felt like it was made with really cheap looking materials to cut costs. This controller looks like the build quality is much more premium and has a lot of inputs and tech put in than the expensive Xbox Elite. The dualsense edge getting removable joysticks and grips raised the price too. So when its those controllers that this controller will be closer to in terms of features than the base Sony and Xbox controllers. Being only $100 would be a bargain.
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                          I mean the original controller had gryo, track pads, USB dongle and Bluetooth, haptics, and buttons on the back. However, I do agree the controller felt cheap (I think really just how light it was). We'll have to see. I think they could pull it off as they've been more aggressive with pricing than other companies.
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                            Wasn't the OG steam controller $50 ?
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                            Yeah, it was. So it had more features than most controllers at the time and I think was still cheaper.
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                              Number of investors think you should be willing to invest in a machine that you probably don't have money for to enrich them. They think you should buy games at $70 or something instead of wait for them to be $30 like on sale. Like I wait. Not all of us want to be in debt.
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                              Investors? Valve is a private company
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                                Investors? Valve is a private company
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                                That doesn't mean it doesn't have investors. It means it's not publicly traded.
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                                  Here's my source for the Microsoft laptop cpu rumor: https://youtu.be/sJI3qTb2ze8
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                                    Number of investors think you should be willing to invest in a machine that you probably don't have money for to enrich them. They think you should buy games at $70 or something instead of wait for them to be $30 like on sale. Like I wait. Not all of us want to be in debt.
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                                    You're fundamentally misunderstanding what this development means for gaming affordability. Not having to buy a scarce, way overpriced Nvidia (or even AMD) external GPU means that gaming is a whole lot cheaper. If developers are optimizing for hardware like the Steam Machine - budget cards and iGPUs suddenly become viable again.
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                                      You're fundamentally misunderstanding what this development means for gaming affordability. Not having to buy a scarce, way overpriced Nvidia (or even AMD) external GPU means that gaming is a whole lot cheaper. If developers are optimizing for hardware like the Steam Machine - budget cards and iGPUs suddenly become viable again.
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                                      Especially with the llm crash, this may keep the fabs running Its some degree of good from like every direction.
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                                        It's likely in everybody's best interest that this succeeds. Not only will game developers be incentivized to actually optimize their games for reasonable setups, this will unseat NVIDIA's monopoly over gamers with their overpriced graphics cards and also Microsoft's monopoly on a gamer's operating system. NVIDIA's partnership with Palantir is a great reason to boycott them and encourage these developments and hype this all up.
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                                        Holy crap I'd forgotten about that. Yeah, nvidia needs to die. Nothing tied to palantir should survive.
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                                          What is the competition on Linux? What’s their market share?
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                                          The competition on... Okay, so, it's an OS right? So for free linux-native stuff, there's the default package manager that comes installed. Switch your steam deck to desktop mode. There's a lot there, including emulators that will run on steam deck from ancient Atari shit to Nintendo switch. But you can also run non-steam executables with proton. Heroic, lutris, etc are great tools from that. You can buy your games anywhere without rootkit DRM. Most things from itch.io or gog.com will run. Or, you know; other places. You *can* just pirate shit. You can in fact uninstall the stock OS and run anything you can compile for midrange x86 hardware.
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