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Are you ready for a $1,000 Steam Machine? Some analysts think you should be.
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I feel like you're purposefully ignoring everything that's being said. I understand what you're saying, but it isn't applicable in this case. It's just a PC man. A Linux based PC. There's nothing mandatory about using steams services on the hardware, nor given the announced architecture, could they enforce such a requirement. Linux ≠ Android. One is open source, the other is not.You could build entire working Android system, dialer, launcher and other regular stuff included, from source. You had to supply some binary blobs for kernel drivers due to ARM platforms being a bit of a clusterfuck but that’s about it. Did people forget this already?
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> This is an illusion of an open system. Well that's certainly an...unusual position. > Steam obviously, there’s no competition. There's definitely competition. Is the competition great? Not really. But you can still buy and install games from Epic, Itch and GOG and run them on Steam hardware. It's just not as convenient. There's not really anything they can do about that. I hope one day soon someone makes a better frontend that supports other platforms better, and if they do, you'll be able to install it on Steam hardware, because that's what an open system means. Closed hardware looks Like PS5, XBOX and Switch. No browser. No desktop. No access to any files. No mods. No emulation. No third party stores AT ALL. And in fact if you try to do any of those things, they will remotely **brick** your device. > Then as your library grows you get more and more vendor locked. Not sure how you get there...> hope one day soon someone makes a better frontend that supports other platforms better, Heroic Games Launcher isn't that bad IMO. Though I haven't checked if it has something equivalent to big picture mode, which is kind of a necessity to compete with Steam on the Steam Machine. But on PC it's fine. I use it for my free Epic games lol
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First public release of Android was in 2008 but you’re talking about several decades. No billionaire is your friend. Please sober up.> No billionaire is your friend. What exactly do you think my argument is? I think Gabe is a pos for having multiple yachts. It's absurd. However, I have eyes and a brain, and I have seen how he runs the company. I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to say with the first part.
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> No billionaire is your friend. What exactly do you think my argument is? I think Gabe is a pos for having multiple yachts. It's absurd. However, I have eyes and a brain, and I have seen how he runs the company. I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to say with the first part.Valve being a private company means that they can be even better at playing the long game. The end prize is a platform like Android or iOS so definitely worth it. Valve isn’t exactly a paragon of ethics, they profit heavily from gambling and know perfectly fine with their online casinos serving children. At least Goop is targets middle aged women.
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Valve being a private company means that they can be even better at playing the long game. The end prize is a platform like Android or iOS so definitely worth it. Valve isn’t exactly a paragon of ethics, they profit heavily from gambling and know perfectly fine with their online casinos serving children. At least Goop is targets middle aged women.I wasn't referring to Goop the company, I was referring to this: https://decibelics.com/klon-guide/  The creator of the pedal covered the circuitboard in some type of tar or something to prevent people from copying the circuit (it's pretty trivial to do with analog guitar pedals). Anyway, I can see that you have no interest in considering that you might be wrong here... If you haven't messed with a Steam Deck, I suggest you check it out. Because it's literally just a Linux PC in a handheld form factor. You can avoid Steam altogether on it if you want.
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Just saying The steam deck was 600€ The steam Maschine is 4x faster I think your math dosent mathWont be that low, but Steam Deck needed a screen, battery, portable form factor, and inputs. So just needing a case and less size and battery power restrictions might make it easier to do more with the same money for the same reason smartphones can be more expensive than PCs and laptops and consoles because of the use case expected of them and the challenge portability adds.
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No. It's going to be sub PS5 in terms of performance and should be priced accordingly. You can make the argument that games are a bit cheaper on Steam so they can maybe charge a premium for that, but I would only consider one if it could do the things my PS5 does at a similar price.I've wondered for lot of PC gamers why they don't get a fiber optic hdmi cable to connect their PC to the TV, since seems a waste to have such a powerful machine then be stuck to a monitor when playing a cinematic graphics driven title like Cyberpunk 2077. Makes sense if the PC is on another floor ot too far to not do it. But, I've seen 30m hdmi 2.1 fiber optic cables that can push 4k/120 over that distance.
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Heroic launcher lets you install games from other launchers although Steam experience is better. But, biggest thing is you can just install Windows, which those who play games that refuse to enable anticheat on Linux will end up doing if this is going to be their main PC.
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I've wondered for lot of PC gamers why they don't get a fiber optic hdmi cable to connect their PC to the TV, since seems a waste to have such a powerful machine then be stuck to a monitor when playing a cinematic graphics driven title like Cyberpunk 2077. Makes sense if the PC is on another floor ot too far to not do it. But, I've seen 30m hdmi 2.1 fiber optic cables that can push 4k/120 over that distance.
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How do you feel about Google requiring apps to be notarised by them to run? How do you feel about locked bootloaders? I outlined steps that are required to get there and where Valve is on that timeline.They got to do that because for PC you can Frankenstein random hardware so you aren't at the mercy of prebuilt OEM options. Now look at phones and see how easy it is to make your own from scratch with parts. Then look at OEMs and how many will even let you unlock the bootloader. Then look at how many iOS options there are for phones not from Apple. Mobile hardware freedom was dead from the get go compared to PC.
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The original steam controller was $50, I would hope they'd be able to keep it under $100. Not to mention a steamdeck is $400, and that's got a lot more going on than just a controller.
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The original steam controller was $50, I would hope they'd be able to keep it under $100. Not to mention a steamdeck is $400, and that's got a lot more going on than just a controller.Original Steam controller felt like it was made with really cheap looking materials to cut costs. This controller looks like the build quality is much more premium and has a lot of inputs and tech put in than the expensive Xbox Elite. The dualsense edge getting removable joysticks and grips raised the price too. So when its those controllers that this controller will be closer to in terms of features than the base Sony and Xbox controllers. Being only $100 would be a bargain.
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The title is a bit misleading, as the article lists diverging analysts’ opinions, ranging from Valve willing to sell at a loss or low margins, to high prices due to RAM and SSD price volatility. cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blackeco.com/post/2330473
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Honestly, they could sell at a loss and still profit. Steam has the biggest selection of games bar none, they've built a culture of buying games too collect them with no intention of playing them, and they get a decent cut of every sale. If they thought of it as a 10 year plan they could sell this thing for $400, and undercut the entire rest of the condole scene, land this in the living room of every kid who wants to game world wide, and literally crush the big 3 in sales.And then Microsoft or Sony would bulk buy 10k steam machines to use in their server rooms. They can't sell at a loss because the hardware is not locked, otherwise people could just buy these and use them for whatever and Valve wouldn't see a cent from those machines. At the very least they need to be sold at a neutral price point, but more than likely they're looking to get some profit over them.
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I wasn't referring to Goop the company, I was referring to this: https://decibelics.com/klon-guide/  The creator of the pedal covered the circuitboard in some type of tar or something to prevent people from copying the circuit (it's pretty trivial to do with analog guitar pedals). Anyway, I can see that you have no interest in considering that you might be wrong here... If you haven't messed with a Steam Deck, I suggest you check it out. Because it's literally just a Linux PC in a handheld form factor. You can avoid Steam altogether on it if you want.
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Heroic launcher lets you install games from other launchers although Steam experience is better. But, biggest thing is you can just install Windows, which those who play games that refuse to enable anticheat on Linux will end up doing if this is going to be their main PC.
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They got to do that because for PC you can Frankenstein random hardware so you aren't at the mercy of prebuilt OEM options. Now look at phones and see how easy it is to make your own from scratch with parts. Then look at OEMs and how many will even let you unlock the bootloader. Then look at how many iOS options there are for phones not from Apple. Mobile hardware freedom was dead from the get go compared to PC.
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Are you sure that’s relevant when every major Android OEM locks their bootloaders now? Illusion of an open system.