Forcing low-income kids to work at McDonald's is about stealing their education, their childhood, and their future.
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I don't agree with this twit republican about school lunches (or anything else), however...
Teaching a teenage child how to hold down a job and manage their earnings is not stealing their education and childhood.
ITS EDUCATING THEM AS PART OF THEIR CHILDHOOD.
When students in HS have to hold down a job during the school year it hurts their education. Summer jobs are another matter.
Students may choose courses that are less academically challenging to keep their grades up, or their grades may fall.
It also makes things like being on a sports team or in a club difficult.
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I don't agree with this twit republican about school lunches (or anything else), however...
Teaching a teenage child how to hold down a job and manage their earnings is not stealing their education and childhood.
ITS EDUCATING THEM AS PART OF THEIR CHILDHOOD.
I say this as someone who worked at a mall tutoring center all through HS to save money for tuition.
I would have gotten better grades if I could have only worked summers but that was not an option.
As a teacher I find most teens are excited to get a job, and overestimate how much they can do and how little sleep is OK.
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When students in HS have to hold down a job during the school year it hurts their education. Summer jobs are another matter.
Students may choose courses that are less academically challenging to keep their grades up, or their grades may fall.
It also makes things like being on a sports team or in a club difficult.
I think you missed the point. Holding down a job is an incredibly important part of their education... as is managing their earnings and understanding payroll deductions and taxes.
Schools generally get an F in educating kids in those disciplines.
In fact, when schools want to save money, guess what... the first classes they dump are Home Economics, Shop Classes, Music, and Sports.
Staying employed and not wasting income is one of the hardest things a person encounters in life and it goes on for decades.
Know how many times I've needed to calculate length of a hypotenuse in my lifetime??? ZERO.
But I was never homeless, never bankrupt, kept my family fed, and HELPED my kids through college.
And to this day I remember my mom going through my first paycheck with me to explain what was going on, and teaching me to balance a checking account.
Schools need to teach and support real world life skills... not act like they're in competition against them.
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I think you missed the point. Holding down a job is an incredibly important part of their education... as is managing their earnings and understanding payroll deductions and taxes.
Schools generally get an F in educating kids in those disciplines.
In fact, when schools want to save money, guess what... the first classes they dump are Home Economics, Shop Classes, Music, and Sports.
Staying employed and not wasting income is one of the hardest things a person encounters in life and it goes on for decades.
Know how many times I've needed to calculate length of a hypotenuse in my lifetime??? ZERO.
But I was never homeless, never bankrupt, kept my family fed, and HELPED my kids through college.
And to this day I remember my mom going through my first paycheck with me to explain what was going on, and teaching me to balance a checking account.
Schools need to teach and support real world life skills... not act like they're in competition against them.
@Sunny @futurebird @LilahTovMoon
When I was hanging drywall for a living I found that the length of various hypotenouses to be crucial to the job. Just sayng.
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I think you missed the point. Holding down a job is an incredibly important part of their education... as is managing their earnings and understanding payroll deductions and taxes.
Schools generally get an F in educating kids in those disciplines.
In fact, when schools want to save money, guess what... the first classes they dump are Home Economics, Shop Classes, Music, and Sports.
Staying employed and not wasting income is one of the hardest things a person encounters in life and it goes on for decades.
Know how many times I've needed to calculate length of a hypotenuse in my lifetime??? ZERO.
But I was never homeless, never bankrupt, kept my family fed, and HELPED my kids through college.
And to this day I remember my mom going through my first paycheck with me to explain what was going on, and teaching me to balance a checking account.
Schools need to teach and support real world life skills... not act like they're in competition against them.
Having adult guidance is very important. Just telling teens to "get a job" isn't.
Making $3000 over a few months at an after school job as a teen isn't a good use of a young person's time in most cases and if they can afford to do other things such as study, learning a language, learning a skill it's a better use of time.
I don't think the kids I've taught who worked needed all those hours to get how budgets and taxes work.
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@Sunny @futurebird @LilahTovMoon
When I was hanging drywall for a living I found that the length of various hypotenouses to be crucial to the job. Just sayng.
@LevZadov @Sunny @futurebird @LilahTovMoon their point wasn’t “the pythagorean theorem is useless and stupid and shouldn’t be taught”, it was “traditional american schooling often is far too general — if we went with more of a ‘master of one’ than a ‘jack of all trades’ approach, with kids able to select classes that both interest them and fit their longer-term goals, we would see greater success”
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@LevZadov @Sunny @futurebird @LilahTovMoon their point wasn’t “the pythagorean theorem is useless and stupid and shouldn’t be taught”, it was “traditional american schooling often is far too general — if we went with more of a ‘master of one’ than a ‘jack of all trades’ approach, with kids able to select classes that both interest them and fit their longer-term goals, we would see greater success”
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@LevZadov @Sunny @futurebird i do compsci. don’t get me wrong, biology and physics are interesting, and i am very lucky to have gone to a school where the quality of education i had was available to me, but my line of work does not necessitate either. some baseline physics, electrical units and such come up, but otherwise…
if i spent my junior year taking programming & security classes, instead of french and biology, i’d’ve gotten a lot quicker of a start.
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@LevZadov @Sunny @futurebird i do compsci. don’t get me wrong, biology and physics are interesting, and i am very lucky to have gone to a school where the quality of education i had was available to me, but my line of work does not necessitate either. some baseline physics, electrical units and such come up, but otherwise…
if i spent my junior year taking programming & security classes, instead of french and biology, i’d’ve gotten a lot quicker of a start.
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What are you saying here, that we as a society shouldn't at least *try* to educate students to be well rounded and multi-skilled? Why not?
I am always disappointed to find the the idea of a universal liberal arts education remains a deeply radical idea. But if you think about what it can do, it’s not that shocking there is resistance. I don’t care if you drive a cab or do farm work or if you test rocket ships you should know a little history, science, math and about arts and culture— enough to have your own opinions in order to just… enjoy life. IDK.
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I am always disappointed to find the the idea of a universal liberal arts education remains a deeply radical idea. But if you think about what it can do, it’s not that shocking there is resistance. I don’t care if you drive a cab or do farm work or if you test rocket ships you should know a little history, science, math and about arts and culture— enough to have your own opinions in order to just… enjoy life. IDK.
