So last week I was trying to get everyone I knew to salt the "Clear Insights" poll from Cuomo.
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So last week I was trying to get everyone I knew to salt the "Clear Insights" poll from Cuomo. I didn't find many people on here who got the poll (it went out to people on NYC voter roles) BUT posting on my co-op message board where we complain about how long it's taking to replace the roof and the laundry room got some action.
At least two other people have told Cuomo they are "moderate" and their top issue is "Corrupt Lawyers"
We picked "Corrupt Lawyers" as our fake write-in issue because I want this to *work* I don't want Cuomo's consultants to just dismiss our answers as people trolling the poll.
So the issue needed to sound plausible but also be... just not something that anyone really cares about.
The poll is still being run. So if you see it say you are "moderate" and write in "corrupt lawyers"
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At least two other people have told Cuomo they are "moderate" and their top issue is "Corrupt Lawyers"
We picked "Corrupt Lawyers" as our fake write-in issue because I want this to *work* I don't want Cuomo's consultants to just dismiss our answers as people trolling the poll.
So the issue needed to sound plausible but also be... just not something that anyone really cares about.
The poll is still being run. So if you see it say you are "moderate" and write in "corrupt lawyers"
What is the purpose of salting a poll? It's an expression of disgust with data driven politics and the whole mentality behind it.
Of course data are important to any politician and they should be responsive to what their constituents say. However, this is about applying the methods of brand marketing to politics. It's about manipulation.
It has nothing to do with leadership. Remember leadership? A leader might choose to highlight an issue their constitutes didn't know about.
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What is the purpose of salting a poll? It's an expression of disgust with data driven politics and the whole mentality behind it.
Of course data are important to any politician and they should be responsive to what their constituents say. However, this is about applying the methods of brand marketing to politics. It's about manipulation.
It has nothing to do with leadership. Remember leadership? A leader might choose to highlight an issue their constitutes didn't know about.
A leader can teach, but is also always open to learning. A leader helps choose where everyone should focus to work effectively, we don't have leaders we have windsocks.
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At least two other people have told Cuomo they are "moderate" and their top issue is "Corrupt Lawyers"
We picked "Corrupt Lawyers" as our fake write-in issue because I want this to *work* I don't want Cuomo's consultants to just dismiss our answers as people trolling the poll.
So the issue needed to sound plausible but also be... just not something that anyone really cares about.
The poll is still being run. So if you see it say you are "moderate" and write in "corrupt lawyers"
Just think about "corrupt lawyers" as and issue and the imaginary person for whom, when asked "what is your top political issue" they say "Ugh! It's all the corrupt lawyers!"
I sincerely believe if we just try, we can get Cuomo to believe these people exist. Because in his heart he wishes they existed. He needs them.
"corrupt lawyers" is just a random combination of two negative words. It could be "cracker barrel logo" or anything else.
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Just think about "corrupt lawyers" as and issue and the imaginary person for whom, when asked "what is your top political issue" they say "Ugh! It's all the corrupt lawyers!"
I sincerely believe if we just try, we can get Cuomo to believe these people exist. Because in his heart he wishes they existed. He needs them.
"corrupt lawyers" is just a random combination of two negative words. It could be "cracker barrel logo" or anything else.
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@futurebird it would be more amusing, but probably less helpful, to get him to make the Cracker Barrel logo a campaign issue.
It would be more funny but I think it might risk tipping them off that it's fake.
"what if they see your posts here and find out it's fake"
If anyone on that campaign can find the fediverse? I'd be mildly impressed. Very mildly ... that's kind of part of the game.
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Just think about "corrupt lawyers" as and issue and the imaginary person for whom, when asked "what is your top political issue" they say "Ugh! It's all the corrupt lawyers!"
I sincerely believe if we just try, we can get Cuomo to believe these people exist. Because in his heart he wishes they existed. He needs them.
"corrupt lawyers" is just a random combination of two negative words. It could be "cracker barrel logo" or anything else.
Part of the reason I care about polling so much is I have worked in political polling and for a moment it looked like an exciting career. I could use my skill in mathematics and data to do something powerful and positive.
I love the puzzle of designing a good poll, the challenges of creating random samples. The analysis of the data.
But, I'm not enough of a campy Democratic cheerleader to really make a living. The next step in the career ladder was before me and I couldn't take it.
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Part of the reason I care about polling so much is I have worked in political polling and for a moment it looked like an exciting career. I could use my skill in mathematics and data to do something powerful and positive.
I love the puzzle of designing a good poll, the challenges of creating random samples. The analysis of the data.
But, I'm not enough of a campy Democratic cheerleader to really make a living. The next step in the career ladder was before me and I couldn't take it.
I do know that with "open response" polls even a small collection of duplicate answers gets a lot of attention.
Eight people mentioning "corrupt lawyers" would be enough to at least waste hours of some consultants time trying to understand what it was.
The data driven campaign is run on a knife edge. They trust the stats they create too much and don't listen to their statisticians when we say "could be noise" nearly enough... which was another reason I gave up on that.
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It would be more funny but I think it might risk tipping them off that it's fake.
"what if they see your posts here and find out it's fake"
If anyone on that campaign can find the fediverse? I'd be mildly impressed. Very mildly ... that's kind of part of the game.
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@futurebird agreed. Also it might actually win him some votes…
IDK. I think no one would know what he was even talking about. It wouldn't make anyone mad, but it wouldn't make anyone care.
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So last week I was trying to get everyone I knew to salt the "Clear Insights" poll from Cuomo. I didn't find many people on here who got the poll (it went out to people on NYC voter roles) BUT posting on my co-op message board where we complain about how long it's taking to replace the roof and the laundry room got some action.
@futurebird in all honesty, as someone who grew up with scent range of the Great Salt Lake, even before you tried to salt it, that poll from Cuomo smelled like it was made from salt, and reeked of fish killed by thousands of kilopascals of osmotic shock. (Like every "clear insights" poll.)
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Just think about "corrupt lawyers" as and issue and the imaginary person for whom, when asked "what is your top political issue" they say "Ugh! It's all the corrupt lawyers!"
I sincerely believe if we just try, we can get Cuomo to believe these people exist. Because in his heart he wishes they existed. He needs them.
"corrupt lawyers" is just a random combination of two negative words. It could be "cracker barrel logo" or anything else.
@futurebird prior to reaching university, I don't think I ever heard a conversation about lawyers that did not involve a "joke" of the following character:
Q: what do you call a thousand lawyers dead at the bottom of the ocean?
A: a good start
I don't think the combination "corrupt lawyers" is random at all. It's chosen to work with preexisting sociopolitical beliefs
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A leader can teach, but is also always open to learning. A leader helps choose where everyone should focus to work effectively, we don't have leaders we have windsocks.
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I just had the nightmare image of having all of these politicians in a kindergarten class where we'd learn things like taking turns, sharing, saying thank you, listening, stealing is wrong...
