If you think caring about a particular trans person means someone can't be a groyper you haven't interacted with any.
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@futurebird Indeed! I grew up in Georgia in the '60s and '70s. My father was racist as hell, but he had a couple of Black friends he thought were great. Bigotry often takes the form of attributing bad characteristics to a group, generally without evidence. Bigots will seldom let their own experiences with a member of a hated group override their generalization of the group. Stupid emotion overwhelms rational thought.
They aren't shy about bragging about how their connections prove that those who criticize their intention to design a world where such people can't exist must be wrong.
"I'm the least racist person in the world!"
A very old red flag.
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If you think caring about a particular trans person means someone can't be a groyper you haven't interacted with any.
@futurebird My biggest interrogation is: did the groyper memes exist before the release of the name, family photos and engravings, or did the groypers create them afterwards to match and have a twisted laugh. Everything has become to muddy for me in the timeline I can't keep track. I'm hoping for a deep dive from journalists who watch the 4chan crowd and nazi subgroups on a regular basis.
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@futurebird My biggest interrogation is: did the groyper memes exist before the release of the name, family photos and engravings, or did the groypers create them afterwards to match and have a twisted laugh. Everything has become to muddy for me in the timeline I can't keep track. I'm hoping for a deep dive from journalists who watch the 4chan crowd and nazi subgroups on a regular basis.
Groypers have been using that stuff for years. I only expect it to get more messy.
Groypers are on the right, but they are also nihilists. They've called the current state of affairs "clown world" Everyone is grifting and it looks like a circus.
But it's also that old notion that society is decadent and needs to be razed to the ground. The people are too free and don't deserve freedom.
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Groypers have been using that stuff for years. I only expect it to get more messy.
Groypers are on the right, but they are also nihilists. They've called the current state of affairs "clown world" Everyone is grifting and it looks like a circus.
But it's also that old notion that society is decadent and needs to be razed to the ground. The people are too free and don't deserve freedom.
To the extent one could extract a coherent argument from a groyper you might hear something along the lines of "racism wouldn't be such a big deal if people didn't make a big deal about it" They find the notion of accepting and treating people they find abnormal absurd, impossible. "Freaks" should be treated like freaks. Basically.
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Groypers have been using that stuff for years. I only expect it to get more messy.
Groypers are on the right, but they are also nihilists. They've called the current state of affairs "clown world" Everyone is grifting and it looks like a circus.
But it's also that old notion that society is decadent and needs to be razed to the ground. The people are too free and don't deserve freedom.
@futurebird Oh thank you. I really hoped it came from the far right from the start because I really wanted the fascists leaders to be afraid of their own base and of the violence they've been grooming turning against them. (Because I don't like their current satisfaction, I'd rather know they have acute regrets about trapping themselves into intenable positions.)
But then I had doubts.
But if Robinson was indeed using old groypers codes, I have much less doubts.
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@futurebird Oh thank you. I really hoped it came from the far right from the start because I really wanted the fascists leaders to be afraid of their own base and of the violence they've been grooming turning against them. (Because I don't like their current satisfaction, I'd rather know they have acute regrets about trapping themselves into intenable positions.)
But then I had doubts.
But if Robinson was indeed using old groypers codes, I have much less doubts.
(I had no idea what groypers were 6 days ago but I do know about Fuentes and modern 4chan.)I don't know. I think he was a kid who spent too much time on the internet listening to people who said it's cool to reject compassion.
Grew up into the man we have who killed someone and doesn't seem to really get that when you kill a person they are gone forever. A lot of that going around.
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I don't know. I think he was a kid who spent too much time on the internet listening to people who said it's cool to reject compassion.
Grew up into the man we have who killed someone and doesn't seem to really get that when you kill a person they are gone forever. A lot of that going around.
There are too many guns and it's too easy for any angry or lost person to get their hands on one.
And some people don't value the lives of others, or they don't understand the permanence of violence. This bold experiment where we are neck deep in guns is not working very well at all.
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There are too many guns and it's too easy for any angry or lost person to get their hands on one.
And some people don't value the lives of others, or they don't understand the permanence of violence. This bold experiment where we are neck deep in guns is not working very well at all.
I really want to think they just don't understand the permanence of violence. That some actions can never be taken back or corrected.
It's harder to accept that some some people do understand it fully and its what they want.
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There are too many guns and it's too easy for any angry or lost person to get their hands on one.
And some people don't value the lives of others, or they don't understand the permanence of violence. This bold experiment where we are neck deep in guns is not working very well at all.
@futurebird @serenity we just need more of them right?
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@futurebird @serenity we just need more of them right?
