I'm talking about the things you can't use, like bowls and trinkets and other stuff that games frequently include as 'white' items that *literally* cannot be used. Those things that exist to be sold to vendors. They have been in many of the roga I have played. In the rpgs that don't have them, there isn't a vendor that buys stuff and no 'economy' that exists.

Any kind of inventory management like arrows and food is way too sweaty and has never engaged a single player ever unless the whole point of the campaign is this exact mechanic. It's a waste of time and energy and I don't play with anyone that insists on doing it.


The first thing I disable in every RPG. Going through a dungeon and having to stop every couple of rooms to throw away stuff really loses your immersion. Bonus point is that it also accumulates wealth more easily.

I don't think you understand game design if you can't understand what's meant by "ruining the economy." It means that the player gets so much money that there's essentially no use for it anymore. They can buy anything that's available without concern. For example, in Morrowind you can craft potions with ridiculous value, then use that to pay for levels from trainers and buy the best items, then pay for enchanting to make them even better. It trivializes the game. The only option at that point is to just limit what can be purchased. That's a much worse solution than balancing the game's economy so the player has options to spend money on, but critically *they can't buy everything*. Video games are about making decisions. If you don't have to decide anything than why not just watch a movie? The game needs to present you with options, and you need to choose what you will and won't do. The economy is a great place this can happen in a game that's balanced well.

>Morrowind you can craft potions with ridiculous value, then use that to pay for levels from trainers and buy the best items Did you actually play Morrowind? I can't think of a single one of the best items in Morrowind that was available for sale. You either had to steal them or they were loot. Also most of the vendors in that game were pretty broke. To sell anything of "ridiculous value" You had to find the mudcrab merchant out in the middle of nowhere. Gold didn't trivialize that game at all. Exploiting alchemy did.

I'm wondering if they mean have ChatGPT reading the messages in Discord and automatically tracking it? It should be able to do that, but I'm not sure about the specifics. And it's not something LLMs are good at, so you have to be able to work around it. It would basically need to notice whenever you use an item, then tell something else to remove that from you inventory.

And that's how the party ends up on the run for counterfeiting.

Stealing doors is easy, you just have to open it and then it becomes a jar. Jars are easier to carry away than doors.

I don't ask characters to keep track of ammunition, but if they are using a crossbow or some type of gun, I will absolutely penalize them for not remembering to reload between combat. Or forgetting to retrieve thrown weapons. Its just always funny in an evil sort of way. "I'm going to attack the troll!" "Alright, how do you want to attack?" "I'm going to throw my enchanted spear at it!" "Your spear is a level down, back where you last threw it when fighting those goblins earlier." *Shocked pickachu face*

We play with the we don't track arrows and encumbrance unless you start trying to steal all the doors in the dungeon. The stealing of doors did happen with a group before I joined. We keep the rule just in case

That's almost exclusively a Bethesda thing, at least to the extent it's an issue. Technically it's in Tainted Grail some, and Larian games a very small amount, but never in enough quantity or weight to be an issue, nor are they ever worth enough to bother with.

Did reinstitution of the encoumbrance rules quell the door thieving, or just make them keep paperwork on it?

I keep track of ammo until it becomes clear it becomes a non issue (ie: when the party gets rich enough that it doesn't matter.) Then at this point I only keep track of special ammo.

But jars aren't worth as much as doors

If they're talking discord specifically I've seen bots in servers that track inventory for you. Just click a button. If they can be arsed to do that then they're truly beyond help.