@RanaldClouston @bookstodon

Since he was writing about 50s army guys I just assumed that's how they were... kind of ... you know... wooden.

@futurebird @RanaldClouston @bookstodon

His writing of heterosexual men definitely fell into the “how do you do fellow straight manly men?” territory, like Holt on Brooklyn 99.

But yes, when will we get a true Rendezvous With Rama movie? One that isn’t somehow turned into a action-packed romp?

@rk @futurebird @bookstodon "how do you do fellow straight manly men?” - the discussion of how breasts bounce on zero gravity is especially eye roll inducing.

@RanaldClouston @rk @futurebird @bookstodon

Please don't get me started on Heinlein......

@mycotropic @RanaldClouston @rk @futurebird @bookstodon Free* love, man.

*Terms and orientations may apply.

@WhiteCatTamer @RanaldClouston @rk @futurebird @bookstodon

I get that aspect, for me it's more about how all of the women characters he writes could be summed up as "guys with tits*" .

I absolutely loved Heinlein when I was a 14 year old kid, LOVED his books. Then I reread one in my late twenties and couldn't understand why the love didn't return. It took me a great deal of contemplation to discover that he was apparently writing FOR 14 year old boys. I guess that once you have friends who are a different gender/sex/orientation that the appeal fades.

*Huge ones that are always perky and never in the way.

@mycotropic @WhiteCatTamer @RanaldClouston @rk @bookstodon

You see this is why I like an Adrian Tchaikovsky book. He has a thing for mean old highly intelligent somewhat terrifying women.

A Thing.

@futurebird @WhiteCatTamer @RanaldClouston @rk @bookstodon

I've never read that author, do you have a suggestion for where to start? I like series set in a universe with a purpose these days. I love the Sten series as an example, also The Night’s Dawn Trilogy by Peter Hamilton.

@mycotropic @WhiteCatTamer @RanaldClouston @rk @bookstodon

I like most of the Adrian Tchaikovsky series, but I'm not certain what to recommended. Would you like more of a romp (he writes space pirates in a way) or something with a bit more meaning and depth?

What do the other people who read #AdrianTchaikovsky think?

@futurebird @mycotropic @WhiteCatTamer @RanaldClouston @rk @bookstodon I’d be curious to know too! The only Tchaikovsky I’ve read is Doors of Eden, which was a very enjoyable yarn.

As for space opera that can be enjoyed by others than 14-year old boys (I have that same relationship to Heinlein — loved him as a teenager, loathed him as an adult), I most recently read the first two books of Bethany Jacob’s Kindom Trilogy. Most excellent page turner! Also, the Teixcalaan books by Arcady Martine are very good.

@futurebird @mycotropic @WhiteCatTamer @RanaldClouston @rk @bookstodon I like both Peter Hamilton & Adrian Tschaikovsky, and I think Children of Time is a good book of his to start with, but if you want something shorter & simpler, his book Alien Clay is a great standalone novel.

@superflippy @mycotropic @WhiteCatTamer @RanaldClouston @rk @bookstodon

Alien Clay has the most substance of his books and I was very impressed.

But don't assume he's always so serious. Many of his books are fun.