The anti AI crowd is getting crazy. Everyone uses it during development. It's a tool for fuck's sake, what's next? Banning designers from using Photoshop because using it is faster and thus taking jobs from multiple artists who would have to be employed otherwise?

Most of the major software development tools have some form of AI-based assistance features now. And the room those, be nearly all have those assistance and completion features enabled by default. If you want absolutely no AI in your games, then you need to verify all of those functions were disabled for the entire development time. And you have no way to verify that.

You can always tell the people with no artistic talent because they don't understand how AI is different than digital art software like PhotoShop. And they seem to think that artists should just accept having their life's work stolen and vomited up as slop. Fuck anyone who thinks like this. They think they are entitled to my creativity without doing any of the work.  "Everyone is doing it." The absolute degeneration of morality in this era is mind boggling. Have no morals, seek only profit. The fact that so many people cannot take a stand for integrity because of perceived pragmatism is sickening.  I hope anyone that thinks like this gets the AI slop filled hell they deserve. And I hope their careers are the next to be axed and replaced by the plagiarism machines.

Use your AI generation all you want but don't enter a painting contest using machine generated content trained on other people's work without their consent.

So it's safe to assume all code generation was trained on GPL code from GitHub and therefore the game code is derived work of GPL code and therefore under GPL itself? So decompilation and cracking is fine?

The anti-AI people will be forced to use it due to capitalism. They'll be pissing against the wind if they didn't.

Have you seen the pro-AI crowd? The most insane people currently in the tech world.

Not everyone, and it probably multiplies review time 10 fold. Makes maintenance horrible. It doesn't save time, just moves it and makes devs dumber and unable to justify coding choices the AI generates.

We’re pushed to use AI a lot at our job and man is it awful. I’d say maybe 20-30% of the time it does okay, the other 70% is split between it just making shit up, or saying that it’s done something it hasn’t.

I guess it's easy to win an argument if you put extreme views in everyone's mouth and argue against that. I doubt anyone thinks AI has more value then human made. Most are just being pragmatic, knowing that AI isn't going away and most indie teams don't have the budget for a dedicated texture guy. There is simply more to gain then to lose, and applauding copyright companies and data aggregators doesn't solve the issues but just gives a handful of companies a monopoly when they push legislation with the help of your fervent support.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformative_use

An unethically developed tool that's burning the planet faster with the ultimate goal of starving the working class out of society. Inb4 alarmism lol tell me the fucking lie if you can.

Do human artists usually get consent before training on content freely available on the Internet? There are plenty of reasons to hate on AI, but this reason is just being pissed that a silicon brain did it instead of a carbon one.

Nature is healing.

The fact that you’re comparing human artists to slop machines is really sad. There is no “silicone brain” making any of this stuff. I think you should take a few minutes and learn how this stuff works before making these comparisons.

I feel there is nutjobs on both sides tbh.

Right, because computers don't use silicone. But Gen AI is modeled after the way the brain works, so maybe **you** need to learn how it works before arguing against a comparison.

Wow thank you for this comment. It helps detail your level of knowledge on this subject, which is very helpful to myself and others. There is nothing else to discuss here on my end.

AI companies are the biggest data aggregator though and they indiscriminately scrape literally everything. I am personally completely against copyright and patent law specifically. But sometimes, like in this case, they can be necessary tools. There are probably better ways to protect against AI but none that are recognized in our current framework of how society functions. AI companies are literally stealing everything ever posted online, cause they couldn't exist without all the data, and then selling it back to people in form of tools while destroying the environment in the process with increasingly gigantic and powerhungry data centers. While also destroying the tech consumer market in the process by buying up components or straight up component producers and taking them off the consumer market.