> I’m all for laws to regulate data centers and manufacturing, but again, that’s not what is being pushed for. Most anti-AI peeps seem the be helping the enemy a lot more then they realize. I'm guessing there's a lot of controlled opposition which is incredibly cheap to produce, doesn't leave much of a paper trail, and is reasonably effective.

I'm not going to fault you for that - but do you think you should receive an award for the work you didn't do? In the case of this particular game, perhaps the bulk of the creative work was done by humans. But if the GOTY committee isn't confident with drawing a line between what work is OK to offload onto an AI and what work isn't, then I think it's fair for then to say this year that any generative AI use is a disqualifier. You and I can say with ease that an implementation of a basic swap function (c=a, a=b, b=c) doesn't require any creative work and has been done to death, so there's no shame in copypasteing something from stackoverflow or chatgpt into your own code to save time. But it's harder to gauge that for more complex things. Especially with art - where would you draw the line? Reference material? Concept art? Background textures or 3d models of basic props (random objects in the scene like chairs, trees, etc)? I don't think there's a clear answer for that. You might have an answer you think is correct, and I might have one as well, but I think it will be difficult and time consuming to achieve consensus in the game development community. So, the most efficient answer for now is to have any generative AI be a disqualifier.

Yes, it is indeed embarrassing that you insist on defending AI. My sister insisted on using an AI this year to generate our secret santa. She didn't get a gift. Ahahahaha. AI is strictly for stupid people that can't do good work on their own. No reasonably intelligent person is using AI to make a draft that they can then correct, because it will always be more practical to just make it yourself.

Well, you see, the "everyone" you are referring to are the same stupid masses that already don't deserve respect on the macro level. The same stupid masses voting in politicial officials like Donald Trump.

Bullshit. “Everyone” in your comment was a clear “appeal to popularity” argument, made to _other_ anyone not on the bandwagon. It deserves to be called out for what it is.

Uh... Sorry but no, LLMs are definitely fast enough. It works just like auto complete, except sometimes it's a genius that pulls the next few lines you were about to write out of the ether, and sometimes it makes up a library to do something you never asked for Mostly it works about as well as code completion software, but it'll name variables much better

I mean they mostly used it for textures, right? Those are often generated from a combination of noise and photography, it's not like they were building the game out of lego bricks of other people's art. I don't see how it's significantly different than sampling in music, it's just some background detail to enhance the message of the art. Obviously modern AI is a nightmare machine that cannot be justified, but I could imagine valid artistic uses for the hypothetical AI you described.

I believe you that genAI is being used for code suggestions, but I wouldn’t call it a genius. This is anecdotal but over the last couple of years I’ve noticed Visual Studio’s autocomplete went from suggesting exactly what I wanted more often than not to just giving me hot garbage today. Like even when I’m 3-4 lines in to a very obvious repeating pattern it’ll suggest some nonsense variation on it that’s completely useless. Or just straight making up variable and function names that don’t exist, or suggesting inputs to function calls that don’t match the signature. Really basic stuff that any kind of rules-based system should have no problem with.

I really hope their next game smashes it too after this statement. Has potential to pave the way for the rest of the industry.

IDEs use LSP dumbass go setup neovim.

VSCode autocomplete is literal AI now, they don’t have intellisense Others will follow, making “no AI” software really difficult to prove

I'm not surprised they ultimately felt like GenAI isn't useful to what they're trying to do. Game dev has known about this type of generation for a while now (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_synthesis and the sources linked at the bottom) and it takes a lot of human effort to curate both the training data and the model weights to end up with anything that feels new _and_ meaningful. If I shuffle a deck of 52 cards, there is [a high chance](https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/671/when-you-randomly-shuffle-a-deck-of-cards-what-is-the-probability-that-it-is-a) of obtaining a deck order that has never occurred before in human history. Big whoop. GenAI is closer to [sexy dice](https://www.scribd.com/document/605580945/Sexy-Dice-Game-Printables) anyways - the "intelligent work" was making sure the dice faces always make sense when put together and you don't end up rolling "blow suck" or "lips thigh". It's very impressive that we're able to scale this type of apparatus up to plausibly generate meaningful paragraphs, conversations, and programs. It's ridiculous what it cost us to get it this far, and just like sexy dice and card shuffling I fail to see it as capable of replacing human thought or ingenuity, let alone expressing what's "in my head". Not until we can bolt it onto a body that can feel pain and hunger and joy, and we can already make human babies much more efficiently than what it takes to train an LLM from scratch (and _they_ have personhood and thus rights in most societies around the world). Even the people worried about "AI self-improving" to the point it "escapes our control" don't seem to be able to demonstrate that today's AI can do much more than slow us down in the long run; [this study] (https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-os-dev-study/) was published over 5 months ago, and they don't seem to have found much [since then](https://metr.org/research/).

You can literally customize the vscode intellisense right now...

"Ai" does not exist. There is no such thing. It does not exist at presence. Full stop. Genetic algorithms and complex algorithms are neat. They're useful tools. They're not "ai", they're algorithms. It's fine. Large X models and diffusion models are bullshit machines. They were invented as bullshit machines. They are scams. Their evangelists are scammers. They do not 'generate' except in the way aspark gap jammer 'generates'. They're noise machines. You do not know what the fuck you're talking about. You are a cultist. Go back to sexting with ELIZA.

I wouldn't call it a genius either, it's just all over the place. Sometimes it's scary good and predicts your next move, most of the time it's just okay, sometimes it's annoyingly bad

When you sample in music, you get the original artist's permission or you get fucking sued. If the AI used were trained on a licensed library catalogue, then sure. Media companies historically would buy sample licenses to use for their sound effects in movies, video games, etc. so AI could essentially just do that, but put the encyclopedia of samples in a blender of training to modulate that shit to make something somewhat "new" to be used. Original artists get royalties, users get something customized without having to hire sounds engineers to make those adjustments, and consumers get good products.

Right now, but we can all see where it’s heading Then you need to make sure 200 devs disable all AI features or get disqualified from awards with “no AI” clauses

Yeah, that's basically what I was trying to imagine. It's absolutely not what contemporary AI is, but it's closer to how I think the technology should be used.

Oh, someone did read a Wikipedia article! No, it was not "appeal to popularity," it was meant to show that you'd be hard to find a product where at least small part wasn't generated with AI, meaning singling this company out because they admitted it is bullshit.

Conflating multiple things together, are we? But hey, everyone who doesn't share your exact world view on all issues is a Nazi!