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"They're going to make driving much safer.

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    "They're going to make driving much safer. But it will also mean big change for a lot of industries, like trucking."
    "I hadn't thought about it like that."
    "This is all happening in the next five years."

    I remember having this conversation at my graduation with total clarity. And back then I believed them. For years, when talking with urban planners about one topic or another I'd insist we think about the inevitability of self-driving cars. This was decades ago. Multiple decades.

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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      "They're going to make driving much safer. But it will also mean big change for a lot of industries, like trucking."
      "I hadn't thought about it like that."
      "This is all happening in the next five years."

      I remember having this conversation at my graduation with total clarity. And back then I believed them. For years, when talking with urban planners about one topic or another I'd insist we think about the inevitability of self-driving cars. This was decades ago. Multiple decades.

      Patrick Lam :tinoflag:V This user is from outside of this forum
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      @futurebird which first, self driving cars (including in the snow) or nuclear fusion reactors...

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        @futurebird which first, self driving cars (including in the snow) or nuclear fusion reactors...

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        @va2lam

        Listen we could have self driving cars right now if people would just be a bit more reasonable about how they REACT to "acceptable loss."

        (it's not "acceptable")

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          "They're going to make driving much safer. But it will also mean big change for a lot of industries, like trucking."
          "I hadn't thought about it like that."
          "This is all happening in the next five years."

          I remember having this conversation at my graduation with total clarity. And back then I believed them. For years, when talking with urban planners about one topic or another I'd insist we think about the inevitability of self-driving cars. This was decades ago. Multiple decades.

          kim_harding ✅K This user is from outside of this forum
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          @futurebird Yeah, I fell for that nonsense years ago too. Later, when I started to think about it, I realised what a pack of lies it was...

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            "They're going to make driving much safer. But it will also mean big change for a lot of industries, like trucking."
            "I hadn't thought about it like that."
            "This is all happening in the next five years."

            I remember having this conversation at my graduation with total clarity. And back then I believed them. For years, when talking with urban planners about one topic or another I'd insist we think about the inevitability of self-driving cars. This was decades ago. Multiple decades.

            llewellyL This user is from outside of this forum
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            @futurebird do you mean, back in the early 2000s? Or the 1990s?

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            • kim_harding ✅K kim_harding ✅

              @futurebird Yeah, I fell for that nonsense years ago too. Later, when I started to think about it, I realised what a pack of lies it was...

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              @kim_harding

              The whole thing about driving being so much safer was really exciting to me and I wanted to believe it so badly.

              Cars remain the primary cause of accidental deaths. And instead we are being told that since the self driving cars kill about the same number of people (maybe more, maybe in new and unexpected ways...) that ought to be good enough for the "other benefits"

              But my brother in christ it was the promise of safer cars that got my attention in the first place.

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              • llewellyL llewelly

                @futurebird do you mean, back in the early 2000s? Or the 1990s?

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                @llewelly

                Early 2000s is when I started hearing the big hype.

                "you just need to accept this is going to happen"

                And I totally thought they were right. Even when it took a bit longer. Even through the early tesla days.

                But what was the magic bullet? It was superior safety when compared with human drivers. That was the big promise. And somehow "as good as humans" is the new bar.

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  @llewelly

                  Early 2000s is when I started hearing the big hype.

                  "you just need to accept this is going to happen"

                  And I totally thought they were right. Even when it took a bit longer. Even through the early tesla days.

                  But what was the magic bullet? It was superior safety when compared with human drivers. That was the big promise. And somehow "as good as humans" is the new bar.

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                  @futurebird For most of my life, I thought self-driving vehicles would require purpose-built roads, designed and built for self-driving vehicles, and not allowing human drivers. Even now, I'm not entirely sure modern self-driving efforts have found a way around that requirement. (I suspect trams probably carry more people than self-driving cars even today.)

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