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Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney argues banning Twitter over its ability to AI-generate pornographic images of minors is just 'gatekeepers' attempting to 'censor all of their political opponents'

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  • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
    You can insist every frame of Bart Simspon's dick in The Simpsons Movie should be *as illegal as* photographic evidence of child rape, but that does not make them the same thing. The *entire point* of the term CSAM is that it's the actual real evidence of child rape. It is nonsensical to use the term for any other purpose.
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    deranger@sh.itjust.works
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    >The \*entire point\* of the term CSAM is that it's the actual real evidence of child rape. You are completely wrong. https://rainn.org/get-the-facts-about-csam-child-sexual-abuse-material/what-is-csam/ “Child sexual abuse material (CSAM) is not “child pornography.” It’s evidence of child sexual abuse—and it’s a crime to create, distribute, or possess. CSAM includes both real and synthetic content, such as images created with artificial intelligence tools.”
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    • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
      You can insist every frame of Bart Simspon's dick in The Simpsons Movie should be *as illegal as* photographic evidence of child rape, but that does not make them the same thing. The *entire point* of the term CSAM is that it's the actual real evidence of child rape. It is nonsensical to use the term for any other purpose.
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      > Child pornography (CP), also known as child sexual abuse material (CSAM) and by more informal terms such as kiddie porn, is erotic material that involves or **depicts** persons under the designated age of majority. [...] > Laws regarding child pornography generally include sexual images involving prepubescents, pubescent, or post-pubescent minors and **computer-generated images** that appear to involve them. (Emphasis mine) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography
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        > Child pornography (CP), also known as child sexual abuse material (CSAM) and by more informal terms such as kiddie porn, is erotic material that involves or **depicts** persons under the designated age of majority. [...] > Laws regarding child pornography generally include sexual images involving prepubescents, pubescent, or post-pubescent minors and **computer-generated images** that appear to involve them. (Emphasis mine) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography
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        mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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        'These several things are illegal, including the real thing and several made-up things.' Please stop misusing the term that explicitly refers to the the real thing. 'No.'
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          >The \*entire point\* of the term CSAM is that it's the actual real evidence of child rape. You are completely wrong. https://rainn.org/get-the-facts-about-csam-child-sexual-abuse-material/what-is-csam/ “Child sexual abuse material (CSAM) is not “child pornography.” It’s evidence of child sexual abuse—and it’s a crime to create, distribute, or possess. CSAM includes both real and synthetic content, such as images created with artificial intelligence tools.”
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          mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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          RAINN has completely lost the plot by conflating the explicit term for Literal Photographic Evidence Of An Event Where A Child Was Raped with made-up bullshit.
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          • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
            I am going to be an absolute crank about this: CSAM means photographic evidence of child rape. If that event did not happen, say something else. The *entire point* of this term is to distinguish the go-to-jail imagery stemming from unambiguous crimes, versus any form of made-up nonsense. Bart Simpson is not eligible. Bart Simpson does not exist. Photorealistic depictions of real children can be hyper illegal, but unless they are *real,* they're not CSAM. Say something else. Otherwise we'll have to invent some even less ambiguous term from *evidence of child abuse,* and the fuckers downvoting this comment will also misappropriate that, to talk about shit that does not qualify.
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            From the article: > The Rape, Abuse, & Incest National Network (RAINN) defines child sexual abuse material (CSAM) as "evidence of child sexual abuse" that "includes both real and synthetic content, such as images created with artificial intelligence tools."
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              From the article: > The Rape, Abuse, & Incest National Network (RAINN) defines child sexual abuse material (CSAM) as "evidence of child sexual abuse" that "includes both real and synthetic content, such as images created with artificial intelligence tools."
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              mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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              They're wrong. As evidenced by *what those words mean.*
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              • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
                RAINN has completely lost the plot by conflating the explicit term for Literal Photographic Evidence Of An Event Where A Child Was Raped with made-up bullshit.
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                deranger@sh.itjust.works
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                Dude, you’re the only one who uses that strict definition. Go nuts with your course of prescriptivism but I’m pretty sure it’s a lost cause.
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                • D deranger@sh.itjust.works
                  CSAM is abusive material of a sexual nature of a child. Generated or real, both fit this definition.
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                  mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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                  CSAM is material.... from the sexual abuse... of a child. Fiction does not count.
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                  • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
                    There cannot be material from the sexual abuse of a child if that sexual abuse did not fucking happen. The term does not mean 'shit what looks like it could be from the abuse of some child I guess.' It means, state's evidence of actual crimes.
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                    It is sexual abuse even by your definition if photos of real children get sexualised by AI and land on xitter. And afaik know that is what's happened. These kids did not consent to have their likeness sexualised.
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                      It is sexual abuse even by your definition if photos of real children get sexualised by AI and land on xitter. And afaik know that is what's happened. These kids did not consent to have their likeness sexualised.
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                      mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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                      Nothing done to your *likeness* is a thing that happened *to you.* Do you people not understand reality is different from fiction?
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                      • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
                        Nothing done to your *likeness* is a thing that happened *to you.* Do you people not understand reality is different from fiction?
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                        My likeness posted for the world to see in a way i did not consent to is a thing done to me
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                        • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
                          CSAM is material.... from the sexual abuse... of a child. Fiction does not count.
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                          deranger@sh.itjust.works
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                          You’re the only one using that definition.
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                          • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
                            CSAM is material.... from the sexual abuse... of a child. Fiction does not count.
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                            How do you think a child would feel after having a pornographic image generated of them and then published on the internet? Looks like sexual abuse to me.
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                              My likeness posted for the world to see in a way i did not consent to is a thing done to me
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                              mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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                              Your likeness depicted on the moon does not mean you went to the moon.
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                              • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
                                What, taking *child abuse* seriously?
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                                Isn't it abuse if i take a picture of a girl, let grok remove the clothes and post this online?
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                                • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
                                  Your likeness depicted on the moon does not mean you went to the moon.
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                                  Your kindness modified naked being fucked, printed out and stapled to a tree in your neighborhood is ok then?
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                                    HAHAHAHA Just stop the corn bro... IS everything the lowest common denominator... beatin meat.... I don't eat when I sh!+... Like time and place.... Tim you a straight arse ladder pulling enshittificating boomer reprobate. This pud skims the surface like the scum that he is. One day the master race will get all the gold coins and build a circus that no one can afford. Finger crossed!!! Nukes_2026
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                                    • D deranger@sh.itjust.works
                                      You’re the only one using that definition.
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                                      mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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                                      My definition is from *what words mean.* We need a term to specifically refer to actual photographs of actual child abuse. What the fuck are we supposed to call that, such that schmucks won't use the same label to refer to drawings?
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                                        Your kindness modified naked being fucked, printed out and stapled to a tree in your neighborhood is ok then?
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                                        mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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                                        A threat of murder is a crime without being the same thing as murder. Meditate on this.
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                                        • ? Guest
                                          Yet another CEO who's super into child porn huh?
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                                          Maybe we are the only people that don't f kids. Maybe this is "H' "E" Double Hockey Sticks.
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