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Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney argues banning Twitter over its ability to AI-generate pornographic images of minors is just 'gatekeepers' attempting to 'censor all of their political opponents'

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  • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
    CSAM is material.... from the sexual abuse... of a child. Fiction does not count.
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    deranger@sh.itjust.works
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    You’re the only one using that definition.
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    • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
      CSAM is material.... from the sexual abuse... of a child. Fiction does not count.
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      How do you think a child would feel after having a pornographic image generated of them and then published on the internet? Looks like sexual abuse to me.
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        My likeness posted for the world to see in a way i did not consent to is a thing done to me
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        mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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        Your likeness depicted on the moon does not mean you went to the moon.
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        • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
          What, taking *child abuse* seriously?
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          Isn't it abuse if i take a picture of a girl, let grok remove the clothes and post this online?
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          • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
            Your likeness depicted on the moon does not mean you went to the moon.
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            Your kindness modified naked being fucked, printed out and stapled to a tree in your neighborhood is ok then?
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              HAHAHAHA Just stop the corn bro... IS everything the lowest common denominator... beatin meat.... I don't eat when I sh!+... Like time and place.... Tim you a straight arse ladder pulling enshittificating boomer reprobate. This pud skims the surface like the scum that he is. One day the master race will get all the gold coins and build a circus that no one can afford. Finger crossed!!! Nukes_2026
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              • D deranger@sh.itjust.works
                You’re the only one using that definition.
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                mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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                My definition is from *what words mean.* We need a term to specifically refer to actual photographs of actual child abuse. What the fuck are we supposed to call that, such that schmucks won't use the same label to refer to drawings?
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                  Your kindness modified naked being fucked, printed out and stapled to a tree in your neighborhood is ok then?
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                  mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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                  A threat of murder is a crime without being the same thing as murder. Meditate on this.
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                  • ? Guest
                    Yet another CEO who's super into child porn huh?
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                    Maybe we are the only people that don't f kids. Maybe this is "H' "E" Double Hockey Sticks.
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                      Isn't it abuse if i take a picture of a girl, let grok remove the clothes and post this online?
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                      mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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                      It's a crime, but it's not the same crime as taking the actual clothes off the actual girl. She was not physically abused. She was not even *involved.*
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                      • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
                        Nothing made-up is CSAM. That is the entire point of the term "CSAM." It's like calling a horror movie murder.
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                        > The Rape, Abuse, & Incest National Network (RAINN) defines child sexual abuse material (CSAM) as "evidence of child sexual abuse" that "includes both real and synthetic content Were you too busy fapping to read the article?
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                        • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
                          Nothing made-up is CSAM. That is the entire point of the term "CSAM." It's like calling a horror movie murder.
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                          AI CSAM was generated from real CSAM AI being able to accurately undress kids is a real issue in multiple ways
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                            I'll keep in mind Tim think child porn is just politics.
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                            I mean the capitalist are the ones calling the shots since the imperial core is no democracy. This is their battle we are their dildos.
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                            • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
                              There is no such thing as generated CSAM, because the term exists specifically to distinguish anything made-up from photographic evidence of child rape. This term was already developed to stop people from lumping together Simpsons rule 34 with the kind of images you report to the FBI. Please do not make us choose yet another label, which you would also dilute.
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                              > The Rape, Abuse, & Incest National Network (RAINN) defines child sexual abuse material (CSAM) as "evidence of child sexual abuse" that "includes both real and synthetic content
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                                AI CSAM was generated from real CSAM AI being able to accurately undress kids is a real issue in multiple ways
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                                mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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                                AI can draw Shrek on the moon. Do you think it needed real images of that?
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                                  It's too hard to tell real CSAM from AI-generated CSAM. Safest to treat it all as CSAM.
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                                  I get this and I don't disagree, but I also hate that AI fully brought back thought crimes as a thing. I don't have a better approach or idea, but I really don't like that simply drawing a certain arrangement of lines and colors is now a crime. I've also seen a lot of positive sentiment at applying this to other forms of porn as well, ones less universally hated. Not supporting this use case at all and on balance I think this is the best option we have, but I do think thought crimes as a concept are just as concerning, especially given the current political climate.
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                                  • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
                                    A threat of murder is a crime without being the same thing as murder. Meditate on this.
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                                    And abuse is a different word than rape. Maybe meditate on that
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                                      And abuse is a different word than rape. Maybe meditate on that
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                                      mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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                                      And what if neither happened?
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                                        I get this and I don't disagree, but I also hate that AI fully brought back thought crimes as a thing. I don't have a better approach or idea, but I really don't like that simply drawing a certain arrangement of lines and colors is now a crime. I've also seen a lot of positive sentiment at applying this to other forms of porn as well, ones less universally hated. Not supporting this use case at all and on balance I think this is the best option we have, but I do think thought crimes as a concept are just as concerning, especially given the current political climate.
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                                        shani66@ani.social
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                                        Sure, i think it's weird to really care about loli or furry or any other *niche*, but ai generating material of actual children (and unwilling people besides) is actually harmful. If they can't have effective safeguards against that harm it makes sense to restrict it legally.
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                                        • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
                                          It's a crime, but it's not the same crime as taking the actual clothes off the actual girl. She was not physically abused. She was not even *involved.*
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                                          When all her friends and family see that image, she is definitely involved. And it's definitely abuse.
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