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tandy put their sound chip on the 1A interrupt?

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  • Foone🏳️‍⚧️F Foone🏳️‍⚧️

    Ghidra even recognizes there's a function at 1fb7:000A! It's called VideoDetect

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    #194

    eww. They're using the NEAR version of CALL to call a FAR procedure.

    You might say "wait, won't that break when it tries to do RETF?" and yes, it would, unless they manually do PUSH CS before they call it!

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      eww. They're using the NEAR version of CALL to call a FAR procedure.

      You might say "wait, won't that break when it tries to do RETF?" and yes, it would, unless they manually do PUSH CS before they call it!

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      #195

      I think this saves one byte?
      a call FAR absolute would be 5 bytes for the call, whereas push CS + call NEAR is 3+1 bytes

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      • Foone🏳️‍⚧️F Foone🏳️‍⚧️

        I think this saves one byte?
        a call FAR absolute would be 5 bytes for the call, whereas push CS + call NEAR is 3+1 bytes

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        #196

        I might have to make a NASM test case. This could be Ghidra fucking up at decoding this one instruction

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        • Foone🏳️‍⚧️F Foone🏳️‍⚧️

          I might have to make a NASM test case. This could be Ghidra fucking up at decoding this one instruction

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          wrote on last edited by
          #197

          similar things in the test.com file. I moved stuff around in the memory map and it's not erroring now. I've probably created endless glitches elsewhere though

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          • Foone🏳️‍⚧️F Foone🏳️‍⚧️

            similar things in the test.com file. I moved stuff around in the memory map and it's not erroring now. I've probably created endless glitches elsewhere though

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            #198

            Anyway it seems it doesn't have a VideoDetect function, it's a DriverDetect function, since it's used for sound too.

            First it goes through the video drivers in the following order:
            VGA, TGA, EGA, HGA, HERC, and CGA.
            Then it goes into the audio drivers:

            stdsnd, adlib, covox, gblast, ibmg, sblast, tandy.

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            • Foone🏳️‍⚧️F Foone🏳️‍⚧️

              Anyway it seems it doesn't have a VideoDetect function, it's a DriverDetect function, since it's used for sound too.

              First it goes through the video drivers in the following order:
              VGA, TGA, EGA, HGA, HERC, and CGA.
              Then it goes into the audio drivers:

              stdsnd, adlib, covox, gblast, ibmg, sblast, tandy.

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              #199

              stdsnd is pc speaker,
              adlib is adlib, covox is the speech thing, gblast is game blaster, most likely, ibmg is... I'm not sure. The PS-1 Audio card?

              sblash is soundblaster and tandy is tandy 3-voice

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              • Foone🏳️‍⚧️F Foone🏳️‍⚧️

                stdsnd is pc speaker,
                adlib is adlib, covox is the speech thing, gblast is game blaster, most likely, ibmg is... I'm not sure. The PS-1 Audio card?

                sblash is soundblaster and tandy is tandy 3-voice

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                #200

                I'm an idiot, this isn't a driver check... it's an argv check!

                you can pass "ega" or "vga" or whatever to carmen.exe to select those types.

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                • Foone🏳️‍⚧️F Foone🏳️‍⚧️

                  I'm an idiot, this isn't a driver check... it's an argv check!

                  you can pass "ega" or "vga" or whatever to carmen.exe to select those types.

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                  #201

                  the other argument you can pass is ROSTER=$FILENAME

                  This lets you reset which file it uses for the list of registered players, setting it to something other than the default ACME.DAT

                  Not mentioned in the manual, but I can see how that might be useful for schools and such

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                  • Foone🏳️‍⚧️F Foone🏳️‍⚧️

                    the other argument you can pass is ROSTER=$FILENAME

                    This lets you reset which file it uses for the list of registered players, setting it to something other than the default ACME.DAT

                    Not mentioned in the manual, but I can see how that might be useful for schools and such

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                    #202

                    I would say "especially if they're on a network!" but... this program is from 1990. Not many schools had networks in '90.

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                    • Foone🏳️‍⚧️F Foone🏳️‍⚧️

                      I would say "especially if they're on a network!" but... this program is from 1990. Not many schools had networks in '90.

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                      #203

                      looks like GameBlaster (GBLAST) has extra options, so you can do like GBLAST260 to set the IO addr

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                      • Foone🏳️‍⚧️F Foone🏳️‍⚧️

                        looks like GameBlaster (GBLAST) has extra options, so you can do like GBLAST260 to set the IO addr

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                        #204

                        stdsnd can also be written as stdsnd! which does something different. What? I have no idea.

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                        • Foone🏳️‍⚧️F Foone🏳️‍⚧️

                          stdsnd can also be written as stdsnd! which does something different. What? I have no idea.

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                          #205

                          ugh. I pulled the thread to try and remap the memory to avoid ghidra disassembling it wrong, and it keeps getting worse. this is a mess.

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                            ugh. I pulled the thread to try and remap the memory to avoid ghidra disassembling it wrong, and it keeps getting worse. this is a mess.

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                            okay I reverted back to my old mapping, then created a new memory mapping: I made up some bytes at 2000:xxxx where it incorrectly thinks it's going, and set up a JMP $CORRECT_ADDRESS there by editing the bytes, then telling Ghidra it's a thunk.

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                              okay I reverted back to my old mapping, then created a new memory mapping: I made up some bytes at 2000:xxxx where it incorrectly thinks it's going, and set up a JMP $CORRECT_ADDRESS there by editing the bytes, then telling Ghidra it's a thunk.

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                              #207

                              this is deeply stupid but it appears to mostly work

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                              • Foone🏳️‍⚧️F Foone🏳️‍⚧️

                                this is deeply stupid but it appears to mostly work

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                                #208

                                THE MEMORY ADDRESSES ARE OVERLAPPING AGAIN

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                                • Foone🏳️‍⚧️F Foone🏳️‍⚧️

                                  THE MEMORY ADDRESSES ARE OVERLAPPING AGAIN

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                                  #209

                                  this isn't supposed to be possible but apparently it is

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                                  • Foone🏳️‍⚧️F Foone🏳️‍⚧️

                                    this isn't supposed to be possible but apparently it is

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                                    #210

                                    so the program has three main code segments, as it has approximately 111kb of code
                                    The problem is that ghidra gets confused when the relative addresses are too big.

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                                    • Foone🏳️‍⚧️F Foone🏳️‍⚧️

                                      so the program has three main code segments, as it has approximately 111kb of code
                                      The problem is that ghidra gets confused when the relative addresses are too big.

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                                      so the first one is at 1000:0000 and the second was at 1fb7:0009. I moved it to 5000:7000, and the second segment seems to be working fine now.

                                      the problem is that I was only able to do that because the segment is only 82a7h long. the first segment, the 1000:0000 one, is FB79 long. So I can't just move it so it's in the middle of a segment, since it'll end up spanning into the next 64k chunk, which is where ghidra fucks up

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                                        so the first one is at 1000:0000 and the second was at 1fb7:0009. I moved it to 5000:7000, and the second segment seems to be working fine now.

                                        the problem is that I was only able to do that because the segment is only 82a7h long. the first segment, the 1000:0000 one, is FB79 long. So I can't just move it so it's in the middle of a segment, since it'll end up spanning into the next 64k chunk, which is where ghidra fucks up

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                                        I guess I could test it anyway. Move it to 9000:8000 and see what breaks. (like everything)

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                                          I guess I could test it anyway. Move it to 9000:8000 and see what breaks. (like everything)

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                                          9000:8006 9a d7 05 b7 1f CALLF SUB_2000_0147

                                          Hey ghidra I can read the machine code. That's CALL FAR 1fb7:05d7, not CALL FAR 2000:0147! WHY ARE YOU CONFUSED BY THIS?

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