"Things that make your home look DATED!"
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"Things that make your home look DATED!"
The implication of these kinds of observations about interior design is that looking dated is bad and you ought to do something about it.
I would like to totally question the premise. What does it mean when something looks "dated" it reminds you of the past? It recalls a trendy thing that has been forgotten. It's "out."
There is power in this, and fashion and design is all about things that give us powerful emotions.
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"Things that make your home look DATED!"
The implication of these kinds of observations about interior design is that looking dated is bad and you ought to do something about it.
I would like to totally question the premise. What does it mean when something looks "dated" it reminds you of the past? It recalls a trendy thing that has been forgotten. It's "out."
There is power in this, and fashion and design is all about things that give us powerful emotions.
What is much worse to me than something looking "dated" is when you can tell that someone is desperate trying to hide or work around the out of style elements in a space to make them fit with the new trends. Then they end up failing twice.
Embrace the old and ugly.
Here are some bathrooms that are "dated from the 90s"
Can you feel the ick? But it's kind of amazing, right? It would be a shame to try to make these spaces look like the hyper smooth, "mall zen" that's "in" right now.
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What is much worse to me than something looking "dated" is when you can tell that someone is desperate trying to hide or work around the out of style elements in a space to make them fit with the new trends. Then they end up failing twice.
Embrace the old and ugly.
Here are some bathrooms that are "dated from the 90s"
Can you feel the ick? But it's kind of amazing, right? It would be a shame to try to make these spaces look like the hyper smooth, "mall zen" that's "in" right now.
The only way to make those bathrooms not look "dated" is to totally rip them out and start over.
And if they are functional enjoyable spaces to me that's criminally wasteful.
Here are the spaces that have been deemed to be in style (for the moment) I love these too.
What I love is the hot running water, the big tub and the interesting durable materials.
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The only way to make those bathrooms not look "dated" is to totally rip them out and start over.
And if they are functional enjoyable spaces to me that's criminally wasteful.
Here are the spaces that have been deemed to be in style (for the moment) I love these too.
What I love is the hot running water, the big tub and the interesting durable materials.
So my suggestion is that we recognize what is "dated" but not take it as a negative. There is something about the way that "dated design" can catch your eye, make you cringe a little and say "wow we don't do *that* anymore" that's really exciting. Thrilling.
Why not lean into it if the space is functional and enjoyable? That's a bold style choice.
In a few moments you'll have people wanting to copy you because the durable and functional "dated" design is the mother of "vintage" and "classic"
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What is much worse to me than something looking "dated" is when you can tell that someone is desperate trying to hide or work around the out of style elements in a space to make them fit with the new trends. Then they end up failing twice.
Embrace the old and ugly.
Here are some bathrooms that are "dated from the 90s"
Can you feel the ick? But it's kind of amazing, right? It would be a shame to try to make these spaces look like the hyper smooth, "mall zen" that's "in" right now.
@futurebird wait what's wrong with these bathrooms, except for all the wood in wet areas, and except that they could have easily fit a larger bathtub in there instead of wasting space like that?
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@futurebird wait what's wrong with these bathrooms, except for all the wood in wet areas, and except that they could have easily fit a larger bathtub in there instead of wasting space like that?
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@futurebird @IngaLovinde I *really* hate to be the one to break the news, but the 90’s are approximately 30 years ago, not 20

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So my suggestion is that we recognize what is "dated" but not take it as a negative. There is something about the way that "dated design" can catch your eye, make you cringe a little and say "wow we don't do *that* anymore" that's really exciting. Thrilling.
Why not lean into it if the space is functional and enjoyable? That's a bold style choice.
In a few moments you'll have people wanting to copy you because the durable and functional "dated" design is the mother of "vintage" and "classic"
@futurebird tbh, my face looks dated. Not sure how to deal with that beyond just leaning in.
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@futurebird @IngaLovinde I *really* hate to be the one to break the news, but the 90’s are approximately 30 years ago, not 20

@Bumblefish @futurebird maybe that's just because of where I grew up in, because for me, 30 years old bathroom looks like this
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What is much worse to me than something looking "dated" is when you can tell that someone is desperate trying to hide or work around the out of style elements in a space to make them fit with the new trends. Then they end up failing twice.
Embrace the old and ugly.
Here are some bathrooms that are "dated from the 90s"
Can you feel the ick? But it's kind of amazing, right? It would be a shame to try to make these spaces look like the hyper smooth, "mall zen" that's "in" right now.
I notice you're not putting pictures of carpeted bathrooms from the 70s or 80s
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@Bumblefish @futurebird maybe that's just because of where I grew up in, because for me, 30 years old bathroom looks like this
I love the way it's the same tap for the sink and the tub. And the shape of the sink is really cool.
I think adding tiles to the side of the tub and giving the walls a deep clean so it's all those square white ones would make it look very cohesive. Whatever is going on with the side of the tub now I don't like.
There is probably a good reason why the washing machine is in the bathroom. But I wish it were towel storage instead.
Obsessed with that faucet.
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I notice you're not putting pictures of carpeted bathrooms from the 70s or 80s
Is there carpet that has lasted in a bathroom that long without becoming a kind of ... "natural flooring" in the worst possible way.
I file that under "not functional"
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"Things that make your home look DATED!"
The implication of these kinds of observations about interior design is that looking dated is bad and you ought to do something about it.
I would like to totally question the premise. What does it mean when something looks "dated" it reminds you of the past? It recalls a trendy thing that has been forgotten. It's "out."
There is power in this, and fashion and design is all about things that give us powerful emotions.
I wonder when dated becomes classic. Two generations difference?
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I wonder when dated becomes classic. Two generations difference?
It becomes "classic" when it's not associated with being too poor to update it, but rather rich enough to have "restored" it.
I really think it's THAT shallow.
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@futurebird tbh, my face looks dated. Not sure how to deal with that beyond just leaning in.
Exactly. You get it.

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It becomes "classic" when it's not associated with being too poor to update it, but rather rich enough to have "restored" it.
I really think it's THAT shallow.
@futurebird From Nicole Rudolph's new video (now on Patreon, out on Youtube tomorrow) talking about why the new "Art Deco" is nothing like actual art deco, and is aiming for luxury instead: “Or rather, what the manufacturers selling luxury are trying to convince us. Often, that's a combination of technology, skill, and the opposite of whatever the last 10 years of style has been. The late 1970s loved earth tones and heavy textures. Soft pastels and smooth surfaces are new, trendy, and therefore expensive, because you have to have just bought them.”
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@futurebird From Nicole Rudolph's new video (now on Patreon, out on Youtube tomorrow) talking about why the new "Art Deco" is nothing like actual art deco, and is aiming for luxury instead: “Or rather, what the manufacturers selling luxury are trying to convince us. Often, that's a combination of technology, skill, and the opposite of whatever the last 10 years of style has been. The late 1970s loved earth tones and heavy textures. Soft pastels and smooth surfaces are new, trendy, and therefore expensive, because you have to have just bought them.”
I have a knee-jerk negative reaction to "art deco" lately because it feels like its going through this cheapification process I've seen before that is depressing to watch.
It starts with authentic materials and craftsmanship, hard to find examples of high quality design. Then this get copied with a few corners cut. Then there is a design short-hand for the trend. A few colors and shapes ... Then you are in Target looking at an "art deco" lamp made of plastic.
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The only way to make those bathrooms not look "dated" is to totally rip them out and start over.
And if they are functional enjoyable spaces to me that's criminally wasteful.
Here are the spaces that have been deemed to be in style (for the moment) I love these too.
What I love is the hot running water, the big tub and the interesting durable materials.
@futurebird what's with the glass specimen display cabinet in the corner? A bathroom seems like a strange place for it.
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I have a knee-jerk negative reaction to "art deco" lately because it feels like its going through this cheapification process I've seen before that is depressing to watch.
It starts with authentic materials and craftsmanship, hard to find examples of high quality design. Then this get copied with a few corners cut. Then there is a design short-hand for the trend. A few colors and shapes ... Then you are in Target looking at an "art deco" lamp made of plastic.
What if we just got off the treadmill? Can't find the "it" style? Find something else, or repair and celebrate what you have that is already durable, beautiful, and that makes your day better?
I want to be clear I'm not saying I don't care about design or trends-- I love design and trends. But... I want more people to start them rather than follow. It's more fun and less expensive.
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The only way to make those bathrooms not look "dated" is to totally rip them out and start over.
And if they are functional enjoyable spaces to me that's criminally wasteful.
Here are the spaces that have been deemed to be in style (for the moment) I love these too.
What I love is the hot running water, the big tub and the interesting durable materials.
Master bathrooms should functionally be as close to your inner sanctum as possible. If you’re trying to impress the neighbors, you’re doing it wrong.