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Twitch’s new storage limits will purge huge swaths of Internet gaming history
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This post did not contain any content.Streamers can host it themselves. From what I hear around Lemmy hosting and streaming video is so cheap it can be done without money from ads
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How pathetic does one need to be to only have surface experience of something before they decide to judge it and insult people over enjoying aspects of it... You're literally wasting your time on the internet belittling someone else's life.. how is that not pathetic?Cry me a river. It will still disappear and the overwhelming majority of people won't miss it. Next time don't rely on digital feuds to store your fond memories. Smash that subscribe button and don't forget to buy some gfuel using the code imaregard, it will make you more alert and better at your video games. Afterwards you can jump to our friend streamer who's selling shit to kids from an inflatable pool while wearing only a bikini. Such fond memories.
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Cry me a river. It will still disappear and the overwhelming majority of people won't miss it. Next time don't rely on digital feuds to store your fond memories. Smash that subscribe button and don't forget to buy some gfuel using the code imaregard, it will make you more alert and better at your video games. Afterwards you can jump to our friend streamer who's selling shit to kids from an inflatable pool while wearing only a bikini. Such fond memories.I've watched under an hour of twitch streams in my entire life and even I know your opinion is ignorant You made up your mind years ago after seeing a couple of shitty streamers. Did you even form the opinion yourself or was it based on a reddit thread?
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This post did not contain any content.it's not as easy as it sounds. The hosting on Twitch wasn't just for videos but for the chat logs synced to that video as well. So you can't just download the videos and upload them somewhere else you have to download them using Twitch's shitty tools so that you get the chat as well. That takes a lot of time but they only got about a month to do that. And that assumes that one actually has the time, energy, access and expertise to download the stuff. What about disabled streamers? What about families of deceased streamers? They now have a month to figure all this stuff out if they even receive the news at all.
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This post did not contain any content.I'm way more surprised that Twitch even has video storage that old. I have streamed a bit, and my videos were limited to one month? Maybe even less. Twitch was never meant for video storage, so this move is not unexpected. If you want to keep a video, download it, always. Even on Youtube you are not guaranteed to have videos forever. They still have my vid, which is almost 20 years old, nobody watches it... and it's helping no one. Which is to say we need better preservation methods for digital content.
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This post did not contain any content.Once again reinforcing the fact that "the cloud" is still someone else's computer. If you want control over your data, you really need to look into self hosting. Otherwise, don't be surprised when that someone else decides to change the rules for using their computer. I also can't help but think that the more the internet matures, the more the version we had in the 90's makes sense. Web 2.0 was a mistake.
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Cry me a river. It will still disappear and the overwhelming majority of people won't miss it. Next time don't rely on digital feuds to store your fond memories. Smash that subscribe button and don't forget to buy some gfuel using the code imaregard, it will make you more alert and better at your video games. Afterwards you can jump to our friend streamer who's selling shit to kids from an inflatable pool while wearing only a bikini. Such fond memories.The only one crying here is you, dude. Try to find joy in something less negative, maybe? Forgive whoever hurt you and move on, this is just sad.
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Eh. The Internet is too full of useless crap thst costs energy to keep alive. No one needs endless swathes of boring videos. If there are some valuable recordings there, then they can preserve those.I agree in this case but this is what they thought at the dawn of computing, too and we lost a lot of history.
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Peertube won't cut it. Those people in the article have thousands of hours of videostreams there. If you're streaming at 1080p, that will be around 1.5GB of storage per hour. 4k will be worse. So if you have 5000 hours of videos like the one guy in the article, that is a neat 7500GB or 7.5TB of video. There is no instance around that will allow you to save that amount of videos. So hosting your own instance would be the only way. Looking at Hetzner storage box, 10TB of data will cost you 25€/month or 300€/years. That is money, but should be possible to pay out of your own pocket.Storing so many videos has a financial and ecological cost. When you reach thousands of hours of videos, it's time to ask yourself if it's really useful to keep them all.
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The only one crying here is you, dude. Try to find joy in something less negative, maybe? Forgive whoever hurt you and move on, this is just sad.Lol, twitch is pure cancer, the less of it exists the better. Youtube for all its flaws has redeeming qualities. Twitch is capitalising on primitive voyeurism and is another nail in the coffin of western civilisation. I look forward to the deletion.
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I've watched under an hour of twitch streams in my entire life and even I know your opinion is ignorant You made up your mind years ago after seeing a couple of shitty streamers. Did you even form the opinion yourself or was it based on a reddit thread?>I've watched under an hour of twitch streams in my entire life Of course you have...
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Storing so many videos has a financial and ecological cost. When you reach thousands of hours of videos, it's time to ask yourself if it's really useful to keep them all.Exactly. When video recording was expensive stuff would get thrown out or overwritten a lot. Films had to be stored in the correct environment, video tapes were expensive and got reused. Stuff was lost that arguably would have some value now. But, the world isn’t going to hell for lack of early films or some episodes of a TV show. Nowadays, it’s just too cheap to make videos and the volume has made the average quality go down. We don’t need to hoard Twitch streams and cat videos. Nothing will be lost that will be missed in 50 years. Conserving some might be interesting but it’s not going to impact people’s lives or history all that much.
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Exactly. When video recording was expensive stuff would get thrown out or overwritten a lot. Films had to be stored in the correct environment, video tapes were expensive and got reused. Stuff was lost that arguably would have some value now. But, the world isn’t going to hell for lack of early films or some episodes of a TV show. Nowadays, it’s just too cheap to make videos and the volume has made the average quality go down. We don’t need to hoard Twitch streams and cat videos. Nothing will be lost that will be missed in 50 years. Conserving some might be interesting but it’s not going to impact people’s lives or history all that much.Yeah, I can sort of understand the impulse that everything must be preserved no matter what because we don't know what will be useful or interesting, but it's not realistic. Embrace ephemerality! It's fine!
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This post did not contain any content.speedrun.com leaderboards are going to be a wasteland of dead links. What do we do with records that get lost?
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speedrun.com leaderboards are going to be a wasteland of dead links. What do we do with records that get lost?Download them and host them yourself.
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it's not as easy as it sounds. The hosting on Twitch wasn't just for videos but for the chat logs synced to that video as well. So you can't just download the videos and upload them somewhere else you have to download them using Twitch's shitty tools so that you get the chat as well. That takes a lot of time but they only got about a month to do that. And that assumes that one actually has the time, energy, access and expertise to download the stuff. What about disabled streamers? What about families of deceased streamers? They now have a month to figure all this stuff out if they even receive the news at all.That is mainly an issue caused by the fact that the whole chat synchronization thing never got developed into an open format since everyone who cared about it was just fine with companies using their own proprietary format for it.
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Lol, twitch is pure cancer, the less of it exists the better. Youtube for all its flaws has redeeming qualities. Twitch is capitalising on primitive voyeurism and is another nail in the coffin of western civilisation. I look forward to the deletion.Just.. please, stop hating on stuff that doesn't concern you and focus on spreading positivity, man. That's what's gonna make the world a better place. Not hoping that stuff you don't like and understand will fail. You're just bringing yourself down.
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Yeah, I can sort of understand the impulse that everything must be preserved no matter what because we don't know what will be useful or interesting, but it's not realistic. Embrace ephemerality! It's fine!Even if you are in favor of preserving "everything", streamers produce a lot of crap that really is completely useless like a 30 minute start of the archived video that is just an image with a timer ticking down or just a static image.
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We have all got very accustomed to the notion that we can put content on a website and it will stay there forever, permanently available, as if that site somehow has an obligation to look after it. But they don't. It sucks, and there will be a lot of stuff lost, but it's also good to have a reminder that if there's data you really care about, you need to look after that data yourself.It seems like since my generation had "If you put something on the Internet it'll be there forever" drilled into us as kids, many of us feel entitled to "the internet" preserving our data for us. Most people don't realize how much labor and resource usage goes into preserving data forever.
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>I've watched under an hour of twitch streams in my entire life Of course you have...The only "streamer" I've watched is Emily Hopkins playing harp. I'd suggest that you check it out but the community is really nice and I don't think you'd fit in