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Twitch’s new storage limits will purge huge swaths of Internet gaming history
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Individually, likely few, collectively, all of them. Make it available via torrent and seed your achievements for all to see. So many solutions that don't involve the oligarchy directly.
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So fuck them, for something they had no control or voice over?Well, they chose to stream on a huge company's website and were entirely content to rely on that company for access to that data, so yes.
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I'd imagine the bulk of this is speedruns. Those add up to a lot of hours worth of VODs, but they are absolutely worth keeping. As I've said in another comment above, speedrun.com is suddenly going to be a graveyard of dead links.Why are they all worth keeping? Wouldn't it be enough to keep something like the top 20 or top 100 in each category for every game? Should be easy to archive those with a month of time for each particular game's community.
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I look at a channel like Kitboga and I see immense value in keeping g over a thousand multiple-hours-long videos.And what is the immense value in that? Barely anyone will watch any of those videos. For most of those multiple-hour-long videos you can probably count the number of views after the initial week or so (when people watch who didn't see it live) in the single digits per month if not per year or overall.
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I'm surprised Twitch hasn't done this sooner honestly. Considering some users have tens of thousand of hours worth of 1080p full length streams, I can only imagine how many terrabytes of data these users have been utilizing on their servers. This should be a cautionary tale for anyone that relies too much on the cloud. You need to have your own local backups for when, not if, this eventually happens to other cloud providers in the future.I once received 1TB free 'lifetime' storage from a hoster. After gladly using it for 5 years, I suddenly had to start paying €5 per month because "they could not maintain the operating costs".
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Well, they chose to stream on a huge company's website and were entirely content to rely on that company for access to that data, so yes.Your friends must love you lmao
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Eh. The Internet is too full of useless crap thst costs energy to keep alive. No one needs endless swathes of boring videos. If there are some valuable recordings there, then they can preserve those.Who gets to decide what’s valuable?
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Well I guess they could download them all?
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Well I guess they could download them all?All of it? On such short notice?
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Who gets to decide what’s valuable?Hopefully the content creator instead of the platform.
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This post did not contain any content.While I don’t particularly care about this specific thing, I have read articles and what not suggesting that the times we live in…. In the future, are going to be similar to the dark ages because their won’t be much data that survives from all of these companies deleting everything… MySpace is another example… geocities before it…. We have paper zines that were printed in small quantities from before the internet was around, but stuff on the internet just disappears… I think that’s why they even started the internet archive.
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I mean, maybe? They have 'til April it seems. Time to make `yt-dlp` work overtime I guess....
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This post did not contain any content.A hot and uneducated take: nothing of value will be lost. Nobody will ever go searching through a defunct twitch account's 142 hours of Minecraft speedrun attempts. If it's valuable, back it up locally
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>In announcing the change, Twitch cited the "costly" indefinite storage of these highlights, which it says are responsible for "less than 0.1% of hours watched" across the site. I don't know how many hours are watched on Twitch, but I bet it's so many that 0.1% is still a fuckton of hours.it definitely is and I bet a lot of the people that are watching them are spending more money on the site than many other people because they are so dedicated to a content creator.
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Especially for smaller communities. I'm sure that MC and Ocarina of Time will be able to save everything they need but so many small communities will probably loose most of their records. Loosing so much knowledge in the process.
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Who gets to decide what’s valuable?There's definitely a spectrum, but I would hope creators themselves could do that.
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VODs do expire automatically, but Twitch has explicitly said in the past that if you want to archive something, highlight it. Highlights WERE meant for storage. So this feels like they're suddenly reneging on that.Well this is only for accounts with over 100 hours of highlights. If you have more, you either are abusing it or doing this semi seriously and should consider backing up actual highlights. Videos are massive and nothing is free. Storage costs. People should backup stiff they care about.
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It basically started out as a literal cloud for "everything else" in network diagrams.And they only switched from using a black box to a cloud so it was less scary looking for the marketing types
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it definitely is and I bet a lot of the people that are watching them are spending more money on the site than many other people because they are so dedicated to a content creator.Yeah, maybe. A lot of that is also probably people that put up someone's 80 hour Minecraft vod on repeat to fall asleep to
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A hot and uneducated take: nothing of value will be lost. Nobody will ever go searching through a defunct twitch account's 142 hours of Minecraft speedrun attempts. If it's valuable, back it up locally> nothing of value will be lost I'd argue the opposite: there's actually a lot of stuff out there that's actually interesting: old-school lets-players who'd have done actual informative playthroughs of games. It's kind of a dying art, but it's also exactly the kind of content that's going to get purged by this kind of action. It's interesting to spend, say, 10 hours watching some guy play Sierra games and actually talk through shit about the game and whatnot, and it'd be a shame to have that vanish. But not entirely unexpected since that's not profitable content in the way that the current morons babbling about bullshit reaction videos, totally-not-camgirls totally not showing their tits, and whatever other brainrot nonsense most of twitch is. (Also alt-right propaganda, but eh.)