I understand why no one wants to do it.
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I understand why no one wants to do it. But there needs to be a non-profit, independent, ad-free social media option for young people.
No one wants the moderation and safety responsibilities of running such a network. And I just said "no ads" (and no datamining, you ghouls) so this is the polar opposite of profitable.
But, young people deserve a safe place online. "just lie and say you're 15" is a bad "solution."
With the right legal framework these networks could be run through schools.
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I understand why no one wants to do it. But there needs to be a non-profit, independent, ad-free social media option for young people.
No one wants the moderation and safety responsibilities of running such a network. And I just said "no ads" (and no datamining, you ghouls) so this is the polar opposite of profitable.
But, young people deserve a safe place online. "just lie and say you're 15" is a bad "solution."
With the right legal framework these networks could be run through schools.
Are you still thinking of all the things that could go wrong? Good!
I assure you that hoping young people have parents who help them use the internet in safe ways (and not too soon or too much) leaves a LOT of kids vulnerable.
And "kids just shouldn't be online" is also not a solution.
Part of the reason online spaces are so toxic for adults is we just won't THINK about this or teach anything and expect people to "get it" without any education.
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I understand why no one wants to do it. But there needs to be a non-profit, independent, ad-free social media option for young people.
No one wants the moderation and safety responsibilities of running such a network. And I just said "no ads" (and no datamining, you ghouls) so this is the polar opposite of profitable.
But, young people deserve a safe place online. "just lie and say you're 15" is a bad "solution."
With the right legal framework these networks could be run through schools.
@futurebird This reminds me of the comforting time I had spent on forums for children when I was 10 into my early teens. I think they were ran by the BBC, and it really helped me grasp things that were happening in my life, and let me interact with my peers when I was 'homeschooled' (I wasn't taught anything lol) and had no access to kids my age irl.
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@futurebird This reminds me of the comforting time I had spent on forums for children when I was 10 into my early teens. I think they were ran by the BBC, and it really helped me grasp things that were happening in my life, and let me interact with my peers when I was 'homeschooled' (I wasn't taught anything lol) and had no access to kids my age irl.
I learned so much from participating in usenet groups & AOL forums. Livejournal was also a good place for me. In every case I lied about my age. That was "just how it was."
I also went to some very bad places online out of curiosity when I was too young to be there. Saw things like gore videos and felt like there was something wrong with *me* because they upset me. There was(is?) whole internet culture of "being upset by horrible things is for babies" and being 14 I bought in.
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I learned so much from participating in usenet groups & AOL forums. Livejournal was also a good place for me. In every case I lied about my age. That was "just how it was."
I also went to some very bad places online out of curiosity when I was too young to be there. Saw things like gore videos and felt like there was something wrong with *me* because they upset me. There was(is?) whole internet culture of "being upset by horrible things is for babies" and being 14 I bought in.
But, I had adults in my life providing some supervision and guidance. And the internet was arguably safer and less exploitative when I was online as a child.
Things have not gotten better.
Do you talk to your kids in an open non-judgemental way about what they do online? If they encountered something or someone who hurt them or tried to exploit them do they know they can talk to you and not "get in trouble?"
I don't envy parents. No one is making this easier for them.
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Are you still thinking of all the things that could go wrong? Good!
I assure you that hoping young people have parents who help them use the internet in safe ways (and not too soon or too much) leaves a LOT of kids vulnerable.
And "kids just shouldn't be online" is also not a solution.
Part of the reason online spaces are so toxic for adults is we just won't THINK about this or teach anything and expect people to "get it" without any education.
@futurebird I preach LAN before Internet. Have safe, multi-family community online spaces with a few hundret people to learn how stuff works before exposing to public internet...
Will have to set up that server gor my extended fam... sigh.
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But, I had adults in my life providing some supervision and guidance. And the internet was arguably safer and less exploitative when I was online as a child.
Things have not gotten better.
Do you talk to your kids in an open non-judgemental way about what they do online? If they encountered something or someone who hurt them or tried to exploit them do they know they can talk to you and not "get in trouble?"
I don't envy parents. No one is making this easier for them.
And while I know kids will always seek out the "forbidden" and even think doing that once or twice is a part of growing up and finding your own boundaries. The fact that I had to lie about my age and technically didn't belong on mostly safe and wholesome online spaces I enjoyed immensely made me less daunted by the "over 18 ONLY" warnings on places where I probably didn't need (or want) to go. I just learned that such warnings mean nothing.
That's not good.
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@futurebird I preach LAN before Internet. Have safe, multi-family community online spaces with a few hundret people to learn how stuff works before exposing to public internet...
Will have to set up that server gor my extended fam... sigh.
I love this idea and have been working to get the other teachers on board with this idea at my school. I'd rather have our students posting about their field hockey wins and fun drawings on the school LAN than on instagram or some discord with... who knows who is on there.
But, there are many things that discourage schools from making such networks. And many adults just don't care or think it's important.
So, students flock to corporate sites.
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I understand why no one wants to do it. But there needs to be a non-profit, independent, ad-free social media option for young people.
No one wants the moderation and safety responsibilities of running such a network. And I just said "no ads" (and no datamining, you ghouls) so this is the polar opposite of profitable.
But, young people deserve a safe place online. "just lie and say you're 15" is a bad "solution."
With the right legal framework these networks could be run through schools.
@futurebird This is such an idea. Instead, schools invest in "online solutions" and "innovative platforms" that students are required to use and give their personal details to, and about twice a year I get a "so sorry" email from my kid's school about a data breach from one of these things.