Valve never had to because they established a monopoly so developers did that on their own without Valve paying them. Meanwhile Valve has ripped off the entire gaming industry for its entire existence, charging absurd fees to gamers and developers and you guys are all so bought into their monopoly that you blindly praise them for it. Gabe Newell is a billionaire. No billionaire earned their money. Every billionaire exploited people for it.

Right, and GOG also "had to" purchase exclusive rights to the games on its platform and force DRM. Oh wait, that didn't happen.

Valve never had to because they established a monopoly so developers did that on their own without Valve paying them. Meanwhile Valve has ripped off the entire gaming industry for its entire existence, charging absurd fees to gamers and developers and you guys are all so bought into their monopoly that you blindly praise them for it. Gabe Newell is a billionaire. No billionaire earned their money. Every billionaire exploited people for it.

Why do you think the fees are absurd?

Because per employee, Valve is one of the most profitable tech companies ever. That means they charged far higher fees than their costs.

So is your solution to have Valve hire more people and be less profitable? That would justify their fees? Or are you mad that the best market place with the most features is beating the pants off the last second cash grab platform that is just an extension of Ten Cent and the giant money pits sucking up actual developers? You talk like a shill. Valve doesn't need to charge less for the services they provide. They know what they have, which they have earned through good will and listening to feedback. Epic has nothing but money to pay people to shit talk Steam.

Another thread where gamers praise Valve for ripping them off for years, and think Tim Sweeney is the devil for trying to break into the market.

Because per employee, Valve is one of the most profitable tech companies ever. That means they charged far higher fees than their costs.

I don't get the logic. If my company makes 10.000.000 with just 5 employees, then it is one of the most profitable companies ever. But this does not factor in how much of that money ist spend on keeping the infrastructure up, paying for resources or manufacturing.

You're thinking of revenue, not profit. Profit is revenue minus costs.

I’ve been playing more of my old retail games that don’t require any launcher or drm beyond requiring the disc. It’s nice. I’m not exactly sure if “xfire on steroids” bloat of steam actually adds anything anymore these days. Steam is nice because my library is already there. Even the friends list has mostly been supplanted by discord now. I use the epic launcher for 1 thing, to launch Fortnite to play with my son. I don’t want more steam features, I’d rather acknowledge its existence less. Start selling games without DRM that only use the launcher to update and it’s better than steam. That’s the 1 feature it needs.

>So is your solution to have Valve hire more people and be less profitable? That would justify their fees? No, they should have charged lower fees. >You talk like a shill. You're literally defending a billionaire who made his money overcharging gamers for decades.

If they camharge lower fees they would be getting allegations of pricing out any competition and get a lot of bad will. It's a lose lose situation with the solution you are proposing

Lmfao, fuck off with this dumb bullshit. The epic launcher is exact as spyware filled as the steam launcher.

Another thread where gamers praise Valve for ripping them off for years, and think Tim Sweeney is the devil for trying to break into the market.

You can break into the market without exclusivity deals. It helps to have a reason outside of "we want da valve money pls"

Given that they offer half the fees of Valve, it's more like 'we don't want to keep having to pay Valve 30% of the *of our entire Revenue* on every game we want to sell when we can make a profit charging half as much*.