> Start selling games without DRM that only use the launcher to update and it’s better than steam. So... GOG?

If they camharge lower fees they would be getting allegations of pricing out any competition and get a lot of bad will. It's a lose lose situation with the solution you are proposing

Lol, no it's not, your just defending Valve because you like them. Lowering fees would have resulted in everyone liking them even more.

The only thing stopping you from making it not suck, Tim, is you. You did the bare fucking minimum, and it's not even very good at *that.*

But does Epic have a fan base that will ignore any and all bad actions taken by the company and viciously support it? No, that’s Valve fanboys

Somehow it takes even longer to launch than the Steam launcher.

You can break into the market without exclusivity deals. It helps to have a reason outside of "we want da valve money pls"

Given that they offer half the fees of Valve, it's more like 'we don't want to keep having to pay Valve 30% of the *of our entire Revenue* on every game we want to sell when we can make a profit charging half as much*.

> Despite these inconveniences, Sweeney remains optimistic and predicts that, over time, his strategy will better connect players across different platforms, thus surpassing Steam in the long run. And what's that strategy? Bribe users to come to Epic and but exclusive rights to games to force users to come to Epic to play them? Really? How has that been working so far?

Good thing that most publishers don't pay 30% on Steam, they get a better deal the more they sell. And Valve does a lot to help games sell better, such as not having an awful client.

Didn’t anti-virus, spyware and/or malware apps flag Epic as malicious when it first launched?

Idk, I have never installed EGS but have claimed hundreds of free games, and played several through Heroic.

I've given up on the free games. I'm sure some are great, but I have enough of a backlog on Steam, I don't need more indie games. Plus I may as well pay for indie games - it's the AA and AAA games I want to grab for free. Now they still have some great AAA games every now and then that I would actually like to grab for free, but due to how much stuff they put out that isn't interesting to me, I've given up looking at it. Doesn't help that I have to re-login every time, regardless of whether I'm using EGS or Heroic (which is a way better launcher and the one I have installed right now). At this point I think I need to invest some time in getting an RSS client set up and getting notifications for EGS free games and other things I enjoy that I keep forgetting about. I guess I had notifications when I had the EGS client installed on Windows and it ran on the background, now I only fire up Heroic when I realize it exists.

Eh, I have repurchased some games on Steam after getting them free from Epic. I rarely play them, but sometimes it's fun to dig through and find something I claimed. It takes like 30 sec on the web, so I do it when I'm in a meeting or something. > I have to re-login every time Really? I don't. Maybe that's why I've bothered claiming them nearly every week. I just open the web page, click the free game, then check out. New games drop every Thursday at 9AM PST, so it's easy to remember. I WFH Thursday and Friday, so it's easy to remember to claim it in the morning. But honestly, any day of the week works since it's one drop per week. It's more frequent during their Christmas sale, and I always forget when it starts, and I don't care enough to figure it out. So around Christmas, I check the next drop date and when it says the next day, I go on every day.

Epic has fortnite and the FUCKING UNREAL ENGINE THAT REPLACED THE QUAKE 2 ENGINE FOR BEING USED IN EVERYTHING. I think they're on an even ground.

If you're building a game, and you build it on Unreal engine, so it's handling literally all of the rendering, development tooling, animation engine, game logic engine, etc. etc. you'll pay Epic a smaller percentage than you'll pay Valve for hosting an exe file and some reviews.

Had a gamedev from a respected studio tell me that same rumour about Steam pushing exclusivities. All it takes is a little digging to find out that's false. Some people were upset when Steam was installed with Valve's own games as a launcher, and later more and more devs launched their games on Steam as a store because they wanted to. The alternative, Games For Windows Live, was lame and unstable. It was just the a smart choice for those that didn't want to make their own launcher. Also, don't feed that other troll who's been posting nonsense everywhere. And yeah, even if some good came from milking tons of cash from spoiled kids (I was glad for Oddworld Inhabitants to name one), as a consumer it's best to just delete your EGS account. If you got a game there for free that you wish to keep just copy its files elsewhere ASAP before deleting your account. Epic Games is known to have randomly deleted games from accounts because of server issues and their customer support will reject complaints about this by default, so getting attached to it's library is not a good idea.

Yeah, sure. Epic recieved 5% of basically 90% of games being released from about 2003 to fuck knows when.

And Steam. You just have to be picky. Even GOG sometimes lets a game with it's own DRM slip. https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_Big_List_of_DRM-Free_Games_on_Steam

Especially since Epic doesn't really have much to offer over Steam, other than its games and exclusives. It wasn't all that long that where Epic Games had the infamous issue with the store. Since their store didn't have a shopping cart, if you wanted to buy multiple games at once, you had to buy them all in separate transactions, but the store flagged that as suspicious purchases/fraud, so more often than not, if you found a bunch of games you liked, and bought them all, [your account would get locked](https://kotaku.com/epic-games-store-will-block-your-account-if-you-buy-too-1834905266).