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A forum for discussing and organizing recreational softball and baseball games and leagues in the greater Halifax area.

I will call "No Kings" a big success.

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  • Dave GoldsmithD Dave Goldsmith

    @raven667 @futurebird @Npars01

    I'm thinking a general strike can be a one-day affair. It should not have to cause trauma to workers. I don't know is it ridiculous to imagine one day a month we shut down the economy?

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    @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @futurebird

    The covid lockdowns are an example of how billionaires respond to such closures.
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/03/dan-patrick-coronavirus-grandparents

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    5 Years Later: America Looks Back at the Impact of COVID-19

    Nearly three-quarters of U.S. adults (72%) say the COVID-19 pandemic did more to drive the country apart than to bring it together.

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    They funded an enormous disinformation campaign hectoring people to die to save the economy.

    Koch Network has funded legislation to outlaw strikes as a type of tortious interference, all while waging economic warfare on blue cities using ICE raids.

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    Supreme Court rules against union over strike liability

    In an 8-1 opinion on Thursday, the justices provided a new definition to the limits on the right to strike under federal labor law. At issue in Glacier Northwest v. […]

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    • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

      @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @futurebird

      The covid lockdowns are an example of how billionaires respond to such closures.
      https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/03/dan-patrick-coronavirus-grandparents

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      Common Dreams

      Common Dreams has been providing breaking news & views for the progressive community since 1997. We are independent, non-profit, advertising-free and 100% reader supported. Our Mission: To inform. To inspire. To ignite change for the common good.

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      5 Years Later: America Looks Back at the Impact of COVID-19

      Nearly three-quarters of U.S. adults (72%) say the COVID-19 pandemic did more to drive the country apart than to bring it together.

      favicon

      Pew Research Center (www.pewresearch.org)

      They funded an enormous disinformation campaign hectoring people to die to save the economy.

      Koch Network has funded legislation to outlaw strikes as a type of tortious interference, all while waging economic warfare on blue cities using ICE raids.

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      Supreme Court rules against union over strike liability

      In an 8-1 opinion on Thursday, the justices provided a new definition to the limits on the right to strike under federal labor law. At issue in Glacier Northwest v. […]

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      @Npars01 @raven667 @futurebird

      What should we do instead of general strikes and boycotts?

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      • Dave GoldsmithD Dave Goldsmith

        @raven667 @futurebird @Npars01

        I'm thinking a general strike can be a one-day affair. It should not have to cause trauma to workers. I don't know is it ridiculous to imagine one day a month we shut down the economy?

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        @raven667 @futurebird @Npars01

        Microsoft has patch Tuesdays. Why can't we have No Kings Mondays? The second Monday of every month there's a general strike. People in favor of the strike meet to discuss politics, work on local projects like cleaning and repairing homes, stream cleanup, etc.

        You may say that I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one. (I hope.)

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        • Dave GoldsmithD Dave Goldsmith

          @raven667 @futurebird @Npars01

          Microsoft has patch Tuesdays. Why can't we have No Kings Mondays? The second Monday of every month there's a general strike. People in favor of the strike meet to discuss politics, work on local projects like cleaning and repairing homes, stream cleanup, etc.

          You may say that I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one. (I hope.)

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          @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

          I hate the idea of missing school. It will ruin things for my students.

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          • Dave GoldsmithD Dave Goldsmith

            @raven667 @futurebird @Npars01

            Microsoft has patch Tuesdays. Why can't we have No Kings Mondays? The second Monday of every month there's a general strike. People in favor of the strike meet to discuss politics, work on local projects like cleaning and repairing homes, stream cleanup, etc.

            You may say that I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one. (I hope.)

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            @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

            My point with that comment is that people have very different relationships to their jobs and what a "strike" might mean.

            I don't think this is as generally applicable as it might seem. Maybe for the retail and parts of the private sector it could make sense, but not everyone works there.

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

              I hate the idea of missing school. It will ruin things for my students.

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              @futurebird @raven667 @Npars01

              Why can't the kids meet and contribute to the general good? Why can't you and other adults use this monthly general strike day to raise their awareness of their roles as citizens in a democratic society?

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              • Dave GoldsmithD Dave Goldsmith

                @futurebird @raven667 @Npars01

                Why can't the kids meet and contribute to the general good? Why can't you and other adults use this monthly general strike day to raise their awareness of their roles as citizens in a democratic society?

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                @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                Because I have every hour of class time planned and wish I had more.

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                • Dave GoldsmithD Dave Goldsmith

                  @Npars01 @raven667 @futurebird

                  What should we do instead of general strikes and boycotts?

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                  @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @futurebird

                  Recommendations?

                  Try it all, until something clicks with billionaires. It's going to take a lot to break through to MAGA billionaires

                  They're very insulated from backlash & they own a media ecosystem that servilely serves up self-soothing lies

                  In the past, global financial meltdowns & world wars did the trick, ... eventually

                  Try the tactics of the Simple Sabotage Manual & escalate up to massing troops on the border to free folks from fascist overlords

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                  • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

                    @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @futurebird

                    Recommendations?

                    Try it all, until something clicks with billionaires. It's going to take a lot to break through to MAGA billionaires

                    They're very insulated from backlash & they own a media ecosystem that servilely serves up self-soothing lies

                    In the past, global financial meltdowns & world wars did the trick, ... eventually

                    Try the tactics of the Simple Sabotage Manual & escalate up to massing troops on the border to free folks from fascist overlords

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                    @Npars01 @raven667 @futurebird

                    I like the idea of trying everything non-violently.

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                    • Dave GoldsmithD Dave Goldsmith

                      @Npars01 @raven667 @futurebird

                      I like the idea of trying everything non-violently.

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                      @Dave_Goldsmith @Npars01 @raven667

                      Do you have a union at your job? Or in your industry? I think rebuilding unions is important. Even fast food workers made some progress on this front.

                      There are jobs where it can be harder to organize.

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                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                        @cvvhrn @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                        We almost did a teacher's strike once, but they caved at the last moment. We had to do a lot of prep to be ready and frankly I was very happy we didn't need to walk out.

                        I like my job!

                        Strikes take a collective will.

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                        @futurebird @cvvhrn @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                        Back in the 1980s we had rolling strikes in teaching.
                        Odd days, mornings and afternoons rather than going out on strike long term eg the crippling miners strike against Thatcher's govt.

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                        • Godfrey642G Godfrey642

                          @futurebird @cvvhrn @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                          Back in the 1980s we had rolling strikes in teaching.
                          Odd days, mornings and afternoons rather than going out on strike long term eg the crippling miners strike against Thatcher's govt.

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                          @Godfrey642 @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01 From a nursing standpoint, the rolling stuff does not seem to work. We are an independent union but the dominant large nurses union uses the 1 day strikes a lot.

                          For hospitals at least most can cancel electives and hold on for a day but open ended is much harder for them

                          To be fair its hard on everybody

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                          • FreddyB Aviation PhotographyC FreddyB Aviation Photography

                            @Godfrey642 @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01 From a nursing standpoint, the rolling stuff does not seem to work. We are an independent union but the dominant large nurses union uses the 1 day strikes a lot.

                            For hospitals at least most can cancel electives and hold on for a day but open ended is much harder for them

                            To be fair its hard on everybody

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                            @cvvhrn @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                            Im not a fan of open ended strikes at all.
                            My husb and i were both teachers in the UK. We had 3 young children so losing multiple days earnings in a teachers strike had massive knock-on for us.
                            It's not sustainable for most workers.

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                            • Godfrey642G Godfrey642

                              @cvvhrn @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                              Im not a fan of open ended strikes at all.
                              My husb and i were both teachers in the UK. We had 3 young children so losing multiple days earnings in a teachers strike had massive knock-on for us.
                              It's not sustainable for most workers.

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                              @Godfrey642 @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                              I hear you and we struggle as well but in my direct experience (2 strikes 2000 56 days and 2022 5 days) it works and like you my wife is a nurse at the same facility so we get hit x2

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                                @Godfrey642 @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                                I hear you and we struggle as well but in my direct experience (2 strikes 2000 56 days and 2022 5 days) it works and like you my wife is a nurse at the same facility so we get hit x2

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                                @cvvhrn @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                                We used to alternate days... it wasn't ideal by *any* means and being a scab on the days in was v v hard. Not bringing in money wasn't an option either.

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                                  @cvvhrn @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                                  We used to alternate days... it wasn't ideal by *any* means and being a scab on the days in was v v hard. Not bringing in money wasn't an option either.

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                                  @Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @futurebird @raven667 @Npars01

                                  Do you think the idea of a once a month general strike is Impractical or impossible? What about once a quarter?

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                                  • Dave GoldsmithD Dave Goldsmith

                                    @Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @futurebird @raven667 @Npars01

                                    Do you think the idea of a once a month general strike is Impractical or impossible? What about once a quarter?

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                                    @Dave_Goldsmith @Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @raven667 @Npars01

                                    I think strikes should have a demand, something reasonable but significant and they should last until it is met (and maybe spread to additional unions if the demand isn't met.)

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                                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                      @Dave_Goldsmith @Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @raven667 @Npars01

                                      I think strikes should have a demand, something reasonable but significant and they should last until it is met (and maybe spread to additional unions if the demand isn't met.)

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                                      @futurebird @Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @raven667 @Npars01

                                      What would be a good demand for a general strike?

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                                      • Dave GoldsmithD Dave Goldsmith

                                        @futurebird @Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @raven667 @Npars01

                                        What would be a good demand for a general strike?

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                                        @Dave_Goldsmith @futurebird @Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @raven667

                                        To start?

                                        1. Free & fair elections
                                        2. Eradication of the Unitary Executive ideology
                                        3. Outlawing Citizens United
                                        4. Impartial redistricting boards
                                        5. Mandatory ethical standards for SCOTUS
                                        6. Reaffirmation of NATO
                                        7. Expansion of the courts
                                        8. Eradication of the Federalist Society
                                        9. Campaign finance transparency
                                        10. Restoration of Civil Rights
                                        11. Recriminalization of public corruption & bribery

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                                        • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

                                          @Dave_Goldsmith @futurebird @Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @raven667

                                          To start?

                                          1. Free & fair elections
                                          2. Eradication of the Unitary Executive ideology
                                          3. Outlawing Citizens United
                                          4. Impartial redistricting boards
                                          5. Mandatory ethical standards for SCOTUS
                                          6. Reaffirmation of NATO
                                          7. Expansion of the courts
                                          8. Eradication of the Federalist Society
                                          9. Campaign finance transparency
                                          10. Restoration of Civil Rights
                                          11. Recriminalization of public corruption & bribery

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                                          @Npars01 @Dave_Goldsmith @Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @raven667

                                          This is a great list... for a party platform.

                                          For a strike demand you want something that sounds modest. ONE thing. A simple thing. A thing that requires no legal subterfuge.

                                          It's more important that the first demand is met to prove that the strike can work. Or that's how I think of this.

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