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Epic reduce their cut to 0% for the first $1 million in revenue for devs on the Epic Games Store
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The hosting part is like the smallest portion of what valve does.
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> Do you think GOG and Epic Games want Steam Nobody gives a shit what they want. Monopoly enforcement is about consumers.It's about consumers by making sure there's competition.
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Sounds like it's time to play through the free games I got before epic folds like a card table and revoked my access to them. In a sane world, the library could host the people's digital store fronts with no cuts taken from the revenue. It is pur culture, we should preserve it.As long as Fortnite prints money, Tim gets to cosplay as a consumer crusader. I think both Steam and Epic will let you generate codes to sell your game yourself, but this will attract a shit load of fraudulent credit card sales, and it's pretty much not worth doing.
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It s a good start ngl. What about taking a different route altogether and not be greedy? what about charging a flat fee (your costs plus some profits to run the infrastructure like yearly or monthly). What about not being evil? There is a huge business opportunity IMO to do just that. Have a store, charge a flat fee, add whatever percentage wire transfers take (1-3%). You make money, you out-compete everyone and you are the good guy.That would require having a platform worth something. Currently, they sank millions into the community - but in the wrong way. The client still lacks basic features and yet they spend money to buy exclusivity. Fuck them, they don't deserve shit - praise or money.
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That would require having a platform worth something. Currently, they sank millions into the community - but in the wrong way. The client still lacks basic features and yet they spend money to buy exclusivity. Fuck them, they don't deserve shit - praise or money.
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Steam is a monopoly because it is the only one of these platforms to actually be good.no, it's because they had about a decade head start. you think steam started the way it is now? it started as a launcher for steam games and it was worse than ubisoft's launcher.
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But nobody is complaining about Steam OS having a monopoly on PC OSs, the issue is with Steam having control of the PC gaming market. I am exhausted by humanity's ongoing inability to hold more than one idea in their heads at once. The world isn't made of good guys that play for your team and bad guys that play for the other team. Can people be adults for one moment at some point this century? Holy crap. Steam can ABSOLUTELY have a dominant position in one market while attempting to erode a competitor's dominant position in another market. Microsoft has a dominant position in the OS market that *should* be eroded by both competitors and regulators. That dominant position includes having about 75% of the PC OS market. Steam has about 80% of the PC digital distribution market for new releases. One of those facts isn't tolerable just because you've decided to make supporting a specific alternative in the OS market your entire personality. That's not how that works. Microsoft should be held back from the areas where it has dominance (and that includes keeping them on a very tight leash when it comes to aggregating more studios under their gaming division) and Steam should be kept on a tight leash when it comes to their dominant position on the gaming digital distribution space. Ideally by having other competitors not only survive but thrive and grow to prevent regulators having to intervene in the first place. Those two ideas are, in fact, entirely consistent with each other with no contradiction. I am imploring social media dwellers to stop treating every issue as a football match or get off the Internet.> Steam has about 80% of the PC digital distribution market for new releases. So it is a bad thing now that Steam makes new releases more discoverable than the other storefronts that have a larger installed base than Steam? Microsoft's store has a close to 100% penetration of home installation of Windows 10 and newer. Opening Microsoft Store: Boom, top spots for Microsofts properties (Activision Blizzard sale, Minecraft, Candy Crush).  Switching to the Games tab: PC Game Pass, more Activision Blizzard sale, COD Black Ops 6 with a dedicated banner, more Minecraft, more Candy Crush.  Visiting one of Microsoft's other game stores, Battle.net: 100% Microsoft exclusive. Not just Blizzard games but Doom, Avowed, Sea of Thieves, PC GamePass. That's unregulated Microsoft on full display. Not a single 3rd party game even available but the rest of the Microsoft catalogue integrated after the takeover of Activision Blizzard.  Compare that to Steam: Huge banner advertising the sale promotion of EA.  Scrolling a bit further down, Microsoft games advertised, some convention for narrative games.  Nobody but Microsoft and Epic are to blame for their huge installed bases not converting to sales of 3rd party games. Mostly advertising their own properties and paid exclusives. All your emotional outbursts do not change facts.
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no, it's because they had about a decade head start. you think steam started the way it is now? it started as a launcher for steam games and it was worse than ubisoft's launcher.
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Also, folks fucking hated it at the jump. Whats wild to me is that Epic *could* factor in all the lessons Steam learned over near two decades resulting in a relatively equal product, but instead... doesn't.eh it's currently second only to steam imo. and don't come at me with gog galaxy, it's absolutely awful, and feels like it's also abandoned.
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I would rather buy a game on steam, or better yet on gog, than giving my money to a company that is trying to make store exclusive games a thing.
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This post did not contain any content.Because they have to, because their store is based in bribing developers for artificial exclusivity in an attempt to hurt Valve for proving that Pig Swiney was a moron a decade ago when he said PC gaming was dead. This is all a vain attempt by a man child to get back at Gabe, and it’s abso fucking lutely a hilarious delight what an abject failure it all is. Garbage store with no customer services struggles and burns money, because that’s what’s lazy customer fucking cash grabs should do - burn. Fuck epic, fuck Swiney, and fuck you if you defend them.
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I dont think the curve would look like this without valves efforts to push linux, so i am a bit forgiving when it comes to them wanting money to do random research and development. So far they have always been making cool stuff with that money. They’re constantly making cool, free shit for gamers because valve at its core is a company of gamers - they happen to make a shit ton of money because their passion for gaming ended up delivering a superior product, but it’s that passion that keeps them at the top. Look at remote play together and family sharing - neither of those concepts help valve sell more games… if anything, they reduce the number of games sold (ie, their entire profit model), but they’re great ideas that make sense… so they spent a bunch of the companies time and money developing them. Epic will forever be garbage as long as it’s only goal is to dick with steam… and it will always fail because they’re treating steam like a greedy corporation when really, it’s just a bunch of passionate gamers building the toys they wish they had when they were kids.
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In this thread a bunch of monopolists tell epic to fuck off so they can keep feeding a monopoly that licenses drm keys to them.
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eh it's currently second only to steam imo. and don't come at me with gog galaxy, it's absolutely awful, and feels like it's also abandoned.GOG doesn't need a launcher, because the games don't have DRM. It is just nice to have, in order to keep games up to date. Steam, Epic, Origin and the Microsoft thing needs a launcher, because DRM. The non-optional part is what is annoying, it is not a choice, if you buy something there, you have to use their launcher software, that needs to run in the background all the time (Sure it doesn't need to run *all the time*, but just having to start it in addition to the game, is annoying). With Steam being the first one to require a launcher, it was annoying at first, but became useful and people started considering it the standard game delivery solution. Now we need another one for Epic and all other stores that peddle DRMified games. If Epic would be just another store, where you buy and download games, nobody would complain, but Epic created (reinvented) an additional incompatible game delivery solution that required their launcher, that is what people are mostly annoyed about. If the industry would come together and create a vendor neutral and compatible software and game delivery mechanism, where people are free to choose where to buy their software and games, and with which launcher they want to keep it up to date, that would be awesome, but sadly capitalism favors short sighted and wasteful competition instead of cooperation. IMO the
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You can't tell me that if epic somehow wins this war that they won't immediately enshittify the platform. Valve has my trust.Correct, nobody can predict the future with accuracy.
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I am against monopolistic competition practices and that includes exclusivity deals and predatory pricing. And as far as I know, Epic does this more than Valve or GOG. Granted, Valve doesn't need to, because they are already the main player, but they also mostly avoided enshittyfication for now. Granted it is hard to enter a market that is already dominated by another company, but instead of doing those business practices they could offer a better service.Valve is private and already takes a 30% cut. It's not possible for valve OR epic to enshit according to the definition of the word.
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Yes, because they still allow you to spend your money elsewhere if a new storefront appears on the market. Epic is actively preventing that.Are they? Interesting word definitions here.
