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  • rmdebarc_5@sh.itjust.worksR rmdebarc_5@sh.itjust.works
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    fuck apple and their customers btw
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    • R rusty@lemmy.ca
      I would rather buy a game on steam, or better yet on gog, than giving my money to a company that is trying to make store exclusive games a thing.
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      Eventhough I adore GOG, they really need to step up their linux support, which is non-existent
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      • rmdebarc_5@sh.itjust.worksR rmdebarc_5@sh.itjust.works
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        Because they have to, because their store is based in bribing developers for artificial exclusivity in an attempt to hurt Valve for proving that Pig Swiney was a moron a decade ago when he said PC gaming was dead. This is all a vain attempt by a man child to get back at Gabe, and it’s abso fucking lutely a hilarious delight what an abject failure it all is. Garbage store with no customer services struggles and burns money, because that’s what’s lazy customer fucking cash grabs should do - burn. Fuck epic, fuck Swiney, and fuck you if you defend them.
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        • U unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
          I dont think the curve would look like this without valves efforts to push linux, so i am a bit forgiving when it comes to them wanting money to do random research and development. So far they have always been making cool stuff with that money. ![](https://uploads.golmedia.net/uploads/articles/article_media/18948689121746196932gol1.png)
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          They’re constantly making cool, free shit for gamers because valve at its core is a company of gamers - they happen to make a shit ton of money because their passion for gaming ended up delivering a superior product, but it’s that passion that keeps them at the top. Look at remote play together and family sharing - neither of those concepts help valve sell more games… if anything, they reduce the number of games sold (ie, their entire profit model), but they’re great ideas that make sense… so they spent a bunch of the companies time and money developing them. Epic will forever be garbage as long as it’s only goal is to dick with steam… and it will always fail because they’re treating steam like a greedy corporation when really, it’s just a bunch of passionate gamers building the toys they wish they had when they were kids.
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          • E easily3667@lemmus.org
            In this thread a bunch of monopolists tell epic to fuck off so they can keep feeding a monopoly that licenses drm keys to them.
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            You can't tell me that if epic somehow wins this war that they won't immediately enshittify the platform. Valve has my trust.
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              eh it's currently second only to steam imo. and don't come at me with gog galaxy, it's absolutely awful, and feels like it's also abandoned.
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              GOG doesn't need a launcher, because the games don't have DRM. It is just nice to have, in order to keep games up to date. Steam, Epic, Origin and the Microsoft thing needs a launcher, because DRM. The non-optional part is what is annoying, it is not a choice, if you buy something there, you have to use their launcher software, that needs to run in the background all the time (Sure it doesn't need to run *all the time*, but just having to start it in addition to the game, is annoying). With Steam being the first one to require a launcher, it was annoying at first, but became useful and people started considering it the standard game delivery solution. Now we need another one for Epic and all other stores that peddle DRMified games. If Epic would be just another store, where you buy and download games, nobody would complain, but Epic created (reinvented) an additional incompatible game delivery solution that required their launcher, that is what people are mostly annoyed about. If the industry would come together and create a vendor neutral and compatible software and game delivery mechanism, where people are free to choose where to buy their software and games, and with which launcher they want to keep it up to date, that would be awesome, but sadly capitalism favors short sighted and wasteful competition instead of cooperation. IMO the
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                You can't tell me that if epic somehow wins this war that they won't immediately enshittify the platform. Valve has my trust.
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                Correct, nobody can predict the future with accuracy.
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                  I am against monopolistic competition practices and that includes exclusivity deals and predatory pricing. And as far as I know, Epic does this more than Valve or GOG. Granted, Valve doesn't need to, because they are already the main player, but they also mostly avoided enshittyfication for now. Granted it is hard to enter a market that is already dominated by another company, but instead of doing those business practices they could offer a better service.
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                  Valve is private and already takes a 30% cut. It's not possible for valve OR epic to enshit according to the definition of the word.
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                    Yes, because they still allow you to spend your money elsewhere if a new storefront appears on the market. Epic is actively preventing that.
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                    Are they? Interesting word definitions here.
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                      Valve is private and already takes a 30% cut. It's not possible for valve OR epic to enshit according to the definition of the word.
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                      > Valve is private and already takes a 30% cut. Yes. That is rather high, but AFAIK the same on Xbox, PlayStation and GOG. Itch.io is on 10%. > It's not possible for valve OR epic to enshit according to the definition of the word. What do you mean by that? Enshittyfication is when companies try to offer a good platform first to reach many content producers and consumers and then, once the consumers and producers depend on the platform, it goes bad for them in order to favor profits of the company owners or stakeholders. Just because a company is private, it can still change to favor short term money extractions from all their customers.
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                        Because they have to, because their store is based in bribing developers for artificial exclusivity in an attempt to hurt Valve for proving that Pig Swiney was a moron a decade ago when he said PC gaming was dead. This is all a vain attempt by a man child to get back at Gabe, and it’s abso fucking lutely a hilarious delight what an abject failure it all is. Garbage store with no customer services struggles and burns money, because that’s what’s lazy customer fucking cash grabs should do - burn. Fuck epic, fuck Swiney, and fuck you if you defend them.
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                        Care to elaborate further on specific events or even just link some articles for a lazy bones like me? (I only get free games from epic and then never play them)
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                        • R rusty@lemmy.ca
                          I would rather buy a game on steam, or better yet on gog, than giving my money to a company that is trying to make store exclusive games a thing.
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                          Wait, I'm confused. The article is about how Epic *won't* take a cut to a point. Surely, you're not giving money to Epic if you buy the game on EGS?
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                            Care to elaborate further on specific events or even just link some articles for a lazy bones like me? (I only get free games from epic and then never play them)
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                            Completely unrelated, but is your username a reference to the movie Can't Hardly Wait?
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                            • rmdebarc_5@sh.itjust.worksR rmdebarc_5@sh.itjust.works
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                              At least Valve takes some of the money that they make from Steam and use it for Steam. You cant run an entire gaming platform based on developers alone, you also need to make it at least somewhat bearable for consumers.
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                                100% of $0 is still $0. I'll spend my money on platforms that have proven to respect their customers.
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                                • E easily3667@lemmus.org
                                  In this thread a bunch of monopolists tell epic to fuck off so they can keep feeding a monopoly that licenses drm keys to them.
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                                  epic can have a seat at the table when they actually start competing with valve in terms of features and customer service.
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                                    Good for them, but until EGS starts being more pro- *consumer*, I'm spending a cent there
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                                    even if they do become pro-consumer you shouldn't spend there. because it'd be a temporary affair and soon as they win market share from steam it'll disappear.
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                                    • E easily3667@lemmus.org
                                      Correct, nobody can predict the future with accuracy.
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                                      in this case you can.
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                                        Completely unrelated, but is your username a reference to the movie Can't Hardly Wait?
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                                        No just a play on the name amanda
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                                        • MudManM MudMan
                                          I mean, yeah. You sorta figured out competition in marketplaces. Hey, I'm a social democrat. I'm all for intervening in markets, but for commodity entertainment products competition works pretty well, as you just explained.
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                                          but no, steam has maintained its 30% cut *since its inception* do you know the rate publishers like EA demand? 50%. EA is just pissed valve is a better and more reasonable publisher than they are. so long as EA and other publishers exist and are taking a bigger cut than valve. I'm happy to give valve a pass atm at the better option.
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