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"I don't want Politics in my Gaming!"
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Seriously. Every form of entertainment has baked-in political assumptions, and that definitely includes #ttrpg . You might *choose* not to examine them, but this is an active *choice* on your part, and you don't get to pretend that your entertainment is "free of politics".
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Seriously. Every form of entertainment has baked-in political assumptions, and that definitely includes #ttrpg . You might *choose* not to examine them, but this is an active *choice* on your part, and you don't get to pretend that your entertainment is "free of politics"."Politics are genuinely fun and everyone wants to see them all the time, and the people who say they don't want to see it like it even more, they just wish they were seeing *different* politics." -hbomberguy
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"I don't want to talk about/see politics" is always synonym to "I support the status quo, and I will aggressively reject anything that goes against it". Nothing that happens on a public space is free of politics, even when it's not controversial.
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But you're making the statement that it's okay to kill people if you want their stuff. The politics are there even if you don't choose to examine them.
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How come gay people don't already have rights in your setting?
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That doesn't make any sense. If they already have rights then what are they arguing for?
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That doesn't make any sense. If they already have rights then what are they arguing for?As I wrote in my original post, some people just have a narcissistic need for self-promotion. They will preach to the choir and bring irrelevant political topics into the game because they feel like the real world doesn't appreciate their valiant efforts towards weaponized inclusivity enough.
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Seriously. Every form of entertainment has baked-in political assumptions, and that definitely includes #ttrpg . You might *choose* not to examine them, but this is an active *choice* on your part, and you don't get to pretend that your entertainment is "free of politics".
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No, I'm not. Because my mental development moved past three years old and I'm able to differentiate reality from fiction. Do you also believe that Super Mario players advocate for animal cruelty towards turtles?I mean the statement is being made within the universe. Super Mario does advocate for violence against koopas. You don't *have* to examine it, but that doesn't make it apolitical.
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Seriously. Every form of entertainment has baked-in political assumptions, and that definitely includes #ttrpg . You might *choose* not to examine them, but this is an active *choice* on your part, and you don't get to pretend that your entertainment is "free of politics".All I want is more nice unpolitical games like Bioshock or Wolfenstein And not the woke nonsense of having female or PoC characters.
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As I wrote in my original post, some people just have a narcissistic need for self-promotion. They will preach to the choir and bring irrelevant political topics into the game because they feel like the real world doesn't appreciate their valiant efforts towards weaponized inclusivity enough.Sounds like you're either not picking up on the fact that your world isn't actually supportive of gay rights (because of subconscious prejudice or something) or you're bad at communicating that it is, or both. "Weaponized inclusivity" jesus christ so its clearly the former
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When everyone around you seems like a dipshit, you're probably the dipshit.
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man I just wanna play my lyre and have an adventure and have fun. I don't wanna argue over politics. I game to get away from all that. I think it's ok to want to have some space between stuff.The point is that there are politics in your game, like it or not. Whether you make them a central focus is another story entirely.
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Exactly. What they're really mad about is the fact that there's a black person, a gay person, or woman with normal sized tits in the game.
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As I wrote in my original post, some people just have a narcissistic need for self-promotion. They will preach to the choir and bring irrelevant political topics into the game because they feel like the real world doesn't appreciate their valiant efforts towards weaponized inclusivity enough.Your language choices give a phobic vibe, just FYI. "[...] they feel like the real world doesn't appreciate their valiant efforts towards weaponized inclusivity enough." Like you know they're suffering actual IRL oppression, right? Stuff like that could be giving LGBT players the impression that you're hostile towards them.
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When everyone around you seems like a dipshit, you're probably the dipshit.Oh, quite the opposite. Most people around me are awesome. And I've gotten pretty good at sorting out the few who are. Actually, after deleting Reddit, pretty much my entire dipshit intake stems from Lemmy. I sometimes really do wonder what I'm still doing here. Because clearly, this entire community has some serious issues to work through.
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Your language choices give a phobic vibe, just FYI. "[...] they feel like the real world doesn't appreciate their valiant efforts towards weaponized inclusivity enough." Like you know they're suffering actual IRL oppression, right? Stuff like that could be giving LGBT players the impression that you're hostile towards them.My language choice is not phobic, it's aggressive, because I'm once again realizing, why half of this sub is permanently looking for groups. I can assure you, that there is no inclusivity issue in any of my worlds. But it's also not anything I pay any mind to at all unless my players are looking for connections or love interests. Other than that I try to avoid heteronormativity for the very few occasions NPCs are actually in a relationship that matters to the game and that's it. And as I commented before, if you want a world and story FOCUSED on inclusivity and LQBTQ issues, then I'm sure there are countless DMs who will be happy to provide that. Because I am not. My games focus on adventuring, nature and mystic, long forgotten places and that's exactly how I and my players like it!
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The point is that there are politics in your game, like it or not. Whether you make them a central focus is another story entirely.yep they exist. but I don't need to solely focus on them. and this entire thread seems to be people saying that fact over and over again. (as you just did as well) is there some kind of meme I missed or something? I'm confused as to why there's so much hostility in the comments.
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Agreed. And there's nothing wrong with that. There's a big difference between playing a gay character and derailing the entire campaign because you choose to lead a gay rights movement while the world is being overrun by the demon king's hordes. I don't care about the former and have done so myself, but I boot you from my table for the later. Not because I'm against gay rights, but because that's not the kind of story I'm interested in DMing and you're free to find a DM who's interested in this storyline, but you won't take my campaign and players hostage for your Selbstdarstellungsdrang.> you choose to lead a gay rights movement while the world is being overrun by the demon king’s hordes. This maps kind of easily onto "We can't fight for gay rights right now. They just blew up the twin towers!" or similar "wait your turn for justice" arguments. I get the impression that you don't see that kind of thing, and furthermore don't care. You run whatever kind of game you want, but I would be surprised if your settings weren't full of unexamined biases and defaults.
