Design Challenge:
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Good design also accommodates the nasty ones I suppose.
Top engineers and park rangers have yet to design a trash can that keeps out the smartest bears but can still be operated by the dumbest humans.
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Design Challenge:
In the tiny kitchen I must have TWO objects on the floor that I trip over:
1. Waste Basket (Because it's an apartment it's like those at the office, small and simple a bucket.)
2. step stool (because i am short)It seems to me that this could be somehow made into one object. A garbage can I could stand on.
Yes I could turn it over but I think you can see how that is not ideal.
Any designers out there looking for their big break?
I found this, I'd add a step (figure), you could probably find a small plastic wastebin that would fit. Maybe the smaller step could be for trash and the bigger recycling.
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Design Challenge:
In the tiny kitchen I must have TWO objects on the floor that I trip over:
1. Waste Basket (Because it's an apartment it's like those at the office, small and simple a bucket.)
2. step stool (because i am short)It seems to me that this could be somehow made into one object. A garbage can I could stand on.
Yes I could turn it over but I think you can see how that is not ideal.
Any designers out there looking for their big break?
@futurebird have you seen the modernist German kitchen designs from the 30s? Or maybe 20s... Anyway they were designed so that anything can be reached sitting down on a rolling stool
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@futurebird have you seen the modernist German kitchen designs from the 30s? Or maybe 20s... Anyway they were designed so that anything can be reached sitting down on a rolling stool
I have not! though it sounds like the kind of suburban sized thing that will just make me annoyed.
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I found this, I'd add a step (figure), you could probably find a small plastic wastebin that would fit. Maybe the smaller step could be for trash and the bigger recycling.
Would need to find hinges that are sturdy enough for you to stand on the lid without deforming.
Maybe some handholds on the side.
I'd actually hinge it on the other side, so you don't accidentally open it with your foot while stepping onto it.
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I have not! though it sounds like the kind of suburban sized thing that will just make me annoyed.
@futurebird it was definitely not suburban—very tiny, very efficient, good for small apartments. I was in a reproduction one in a museum once. You can basically reach anywhere just stretching out your arm but somehow there's room to do real prep. Like a WV beetle, I guess. If only the Germans stuck to designing nice small things for people
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Would need to find hinges that are sturdy enough for you to stand on the lid without deforming.
Maybe some handholds on the side.
I'd actually hinge it on the other side, so you don't accidentally open it with your foot while stepping onto it.
I'd also put some pressure lock casters under a false bottom so you can roll it easily.
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I'd also put some pressure lock casters under a false bottom so you can roll it easily.
Another option is that the back flips down, potentially sturdier than hinges at the top.
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Another option is that the back flips down, potentially sturdier than hinges at the top.
This is close to really nice. What I would do is:
* The back panel and a false bottom are attached on a hinge (like L-shaped but reversed in this image)
* A small plastic bin sits on the false bottom
* When you tilt the back, the plastic bin tilts out with it so you can easily take it out.
* I think an empty Tidy Cat litter pail is about the right size to use as the plastic bin. Until they made disposable grocery bags illegal here, we used to use those in a pet litter pail for our garbage. -
This is close to really nice. What I would do is:
* The back panel and a false bottom are attached on a hinge (like L-shaped but reversed in this image)
* A small plastic bin sits on the false bottom
* When you tilt the back, the plastic bin tilts out with it so you can easily take it out.
* I think an empty Tidy Cat litter pail is about the right size to use as the plastic bin. Until they made disposable grocery bags illegal here, we used to use those in a pet litter pail for our garbage.@haaseg @MCDuncanLab @futurebird
What I would do is:
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This is close to really nice. What I would do is:
* The back panel and a false bottom are attached on a hinge (like L-shaped but reversed in this image)
* A small plastic bin sits on the false bottom
* When you tilt the back, the plastic bin tilts out with it so you can easily take it out.
* I think an empty Tidy Cat litter pail is about the right size to use as the plastic bin. Until they made disposable grocery bags illegal here, we used to use those in a pet litter pail for our garbage.I’ve revised my suggestion.
I think a box with a fold down stair would be the most efficient.

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Design Challenge:
In the tiny kitchen I must have TWO objects on the floor that I trip over:
1. Waste Basket (Because it's an apartment it's like those at the office, small and simple a bucket.)
2. step stool (because i am short)It seems to me that this could be somehow made into one object. A garbage can I could stand on.
Yes I could turn it over but I think you can see how that is not ideal.
Any designers out there looking for their big break?
@futurebird Where would you like these objects to be relative to other parts of the kitchen? That is, would you prefer a garbage can be close to the sink, or the stepstool nearest the cabinets or fridge?
What is the layout of the kitchen, if you don’t mind me asking, because I’d think a design that meshes with, say, an inbuilt island or table might reduce tripping more by dint of associated height than necessarily the merging of furniture.
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@futurebird Where would you like these objects to be relative to other parts of the kitchen? That is, would you prefer a garbage can be close to the sink, or the stepstool nearest the cabinets or fridge?
What is the layout of the kitchen, if you don’t mind me asking, because I’d think a design that meshes with, say, an inbuilt island or table might reduce tripping more by dint of associated height than necessarily the merging of furniture.
It's too small to have an island and I don't like the trash in a cabinet, it's kind of gross to me? I take out the trash every day we have a shoot in the hall. So used bags in a simple open bucket work great.
I move both the can and the step frequently to where they are helpful.
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Design Challenge:
In the tiny kitchen I must have TWO objects on the floor that I trip over:
1. Waste Basket (Because it's an apartment it's like those at the office, small and simple a bucket.)
2. step stool (because i am short)It seems to me that this could be somehow made into one object. A garbage can I could stand on.
Yes I could turn it over but I think you can see how that is not ideal.
Any designers out there looking for their big break?
@futurebird I'm gonna argue that if you combine the items into one, you're no longer meeting the original spec which is TWO objects that you trip on? So I'd imagine you'd spend all this effort combining the items, and still end up finding a way around it to trip on something else, or perhaps your own foot?!
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@futurebird I'm gonna argue that if you combine the items into one, you're no longer meeting the original spec which is TWO objects that you trip on? So I'd imagine you'd spend all this effort combining the items, and still end up finding a way around it to trip on something else, or perhaps your own foot?!
This is why we have #picathecat
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Design Challenge:
In the tiny kitchen I must have TWO objects on the floor that I trip over:
1. Waste Basket (Because it's an apartment it's like those at the office, small and simple a bucket.)
2. step stool (because i am short)It seems to me that this could be somehow made into one object. A garbage can I could stand on.
Yes I could turn it over but I think you can see how that is not ideal.
Any designers out there looking for their big break?
Ikea has this kind of shelving unit with plastic hanging buckets you could line with a bag. Its sturdy enough to stand on. It comes in various configurations and sizes. I don't know if this is the smallest. A smaller one would be more ideal. But you could totally get the plastic bucket and just line it with a bag for your garbage
TROFAST frame, light white stained pine, 32x44x52 cm (125/8x173/8x201/2") - IKEA CA
TROFAST frame, light white stained pine, 32x44x52 cm (125/8x173/8x201/2") If you complete this frame with storage boxes, shelves and trays, you get a sturdy storage solution that makes it easier for your child to keep their things organized.
IKEA (www.ikea.com)
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Ikea has this kind of shelving unit with plastic hanging buckets you could line with a bag. Its sturdy enough to stand on. It comes in various configurations and sizes. I don't know if this is the smallest. A smaller one would be more ideal. But you could totally get the plastic bucket and just line it with a bag for your garbage
TROFAST frame, light white stained pine, 32x44x52 cm (125/8x173/8x201/2") - IKEA CA
TROFAST frame, light white stained pine, 32x44x52 cm (125/8x173/8x201/2") If you complete this frame with storage boxes, shelves and trays, you get a sturdy storage solution that makes it easier for your child to keep their things organized.
IKEA (www.ikea.com)
This could be perfect. Though I would need to add a handle. hmmm.
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@haaseg @MCDuncanLab @futurebird
What I would do is:
I have this in our bedroom. Well one like it. I love it. Makes it easy to climb into our loft bed.
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I have this in our bedroom. Well one like it. I love it. Makes it easy to climb into our loft bed.
@futurebird They're brilliant!
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@futurebird They're brilliant!
It was VERY expensive. It's the only furniture I've ever bought anywhere near that price and one of only a few purchased items at all.
But it makes the room. I've wanted one for decades and about three years ago made the plunge.
So happy. It's so elegant and functional.