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Nintendo applying for anti-Palworld patents in the US with a whopping 22 out of 23 rejected, but "they are fighting"
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How does that work exactly? You can't retroactively sue someone over a patent before it was granted... in fact, once you realize the mechanic was already out there, and patent shouldn't be granted at all.It would take time in the court for people to figure that out and they would use ill-granted patents like a hammer. Indie: *Release a new game with unique catching mechanic* Nintendo: "REEEEEE! We have valid patent, so give us all of your profit, assets plus penalty or we will sue you to make you die poor like that one Gary Bowser over there." Indie: "WTF?" Even if Indie developers try to fight in court, they'll spend multiple years, hundred of thousands of dollars in legal fees and on top of that, because Nintendo have a patent that was stupidly granted by patent office, they can argue on a ground that their lawsuit is not frivolous. Valve almost died as a company, because of those sort of people before if you watched their documentary, they only won, because the mega-corporation emailed about destroying the evidence.
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How does that work exactly? You can't retroactively sue someone over a patent before it was granted... in fact, once you realize the mechanic was already out there, and patent shouldn't be granted at all.In Japan, the patents they filed for were "extensions" of existing older patents. The new patents "updated" the old patents and could be used as if they filed when the original patent was. So they were able to file patents after Palworld came out, and then sue as if the patents existed before Palworld. Seems like bullshit to me, but I'm not a lawyer. I don't know if a similar mechanic can be used in the US patent system or not.
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This post did not contain any content.They should force Gamefreak to make a better Pokemon game. That would teach Pal World a lesson.
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I would love to learn why this isn't completely stupid, if anyone has a way of explaining. We'd be down entire genres of games if developers didn't copy each other's homework.It is completely stupid. There are mountains worth of prior art that easily negate any patent Nintendo would be granted by this point. Nintendo is a Japanese company, and the one thing you can rely on Japanese companies doing in recent years is not understanding that Japanese law only applies in Japan. They seem to think that they can apply Japanese law to US citizens or companies that conduct business in the US, so whatever strategy they think they can use will be swatted aside by the US government automatically. We have seen this already when Nintendo tried to sue Galoob Toys and lost.
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Nintendo is attempting to bully other game developers. They can't enforce this patent in the US, but they can wave the patent and a cease and desist letter menacingly at their competitors. Thing is, it's generating bad will against Nintendo and the first time a company calls Nintendo on their shit, Nintendo is gunna lose. The patent is either so specific it won't apply to another game or its broader and there is a mountain of prior art.> From my reading, it’s the latter. The patent seems to try to monopolize the idea of throwing an object to catch a monster. Which has been done so, so many times before. Including but not limited to RL millenia before videogames were even invented.
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It is completely stupid. There are mountains worth of prior art that easily negate any patent Nintendo would be granted by this point. Nintendo is a Japanese company, and the one thing you can rely on Japanese companies doing in recent years is not understanding that Japanese law only applies in Japan. They seem to think that they can apply Japanese law to US citizens or companies that conduct business in the US, so whatever strategy they think they can use will be swatted aside by the US government automatically. We have seen this already when Nintendo tried to sue Galoob Toys and lost.Well, to be fair when it comes to not understanding that their law doesn't apply world-wide Americans are also right up there in the top ranks.
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This post did not contain any content.Fuck Nintendo.
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This post did not contain any content.Good god they're such fucking losers. Are you trying to make everyone hate you, Nintendo? Give it up already.
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> From my reading, it’s the latter. The patent seems to try to monopolize the idea of throwing an object to catch a monster. Which has been done so, so many times before. Including but not limited to RL millenia before videogames were even invented.Imagine trying to throw a lawsuit at a rodeo for video game patent infringement
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This post did not contain any content.Fuck Nintendo. Vote with your wallets and don't buy a Switch 2, get a Steam Deck or other similar portable gaming handheld.
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In Japan, the patents they filed for were "extensions" of existing older patents. The new patents "updated" the old patents and could be used as if they filed when the original patent was. So they were able to file patents after Palworld came out, and then sue as if the patents existed before Palworld. Seems like bullshit to me, but I'm not a lawyer. I don't know if a similar mechanic can be used in the US patent system or not.> Seems like bullshit to me, but I’m not a lawyer. The Japanese patent system is so, so much worse than the US one. Where things like what you just described are possible. Honestly, Palworld is probably hosed over there. Nintendo has the patent on a system Palworld made before the patent even existed and Nintendo is going to beat them over the head with it. In the US, a solid defense to a patent is to show prior art. In this case, Palworld's dev can point to Palworld as the prior art if Nintendo sues them; Nintendo's patent existed after Palworld did. Palworld's dev can also point to a giant mountain of prior art of other games that allow one to throw an object to capture a monster.
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This post did not contain any content.Scumtendo strikes again
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Fuck Nintendo. Vote with your wallets and don't buy a Switch 2, get a Steam Deck or other similar portable gaming handheld.Obviously there will always be new cool games, but also, there's enough out there already (hell even just in my Steam library alone) to enjoy new content for the rest of several lifetimes. I don't need Nintendo at all.
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Fuck Nintendo. Vote with your wallets and don't buy a Switch 2, get a Steam Deck or other similar portable gaming handheld.I'm going to buy a switch two, which they usually sell the hardware for close to cost. Then I'm gonna leave it in the box and wait until a mod chip comes out that lets me play every game for free.
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This post did not contain any content.Palworld does what Nintendon't
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> Seems like bullshit to me, but I’m not a lawyer. The Japanese patent system is so, so much worse than the US one. Where things like what you just described are possible. Honestly, Palworld is probably hosed over there. Nintendo has the patent on a system Palworld made before the patent even existed and Nintendo is going to beat them over the head with it. In the US, a solid defense to a patent is to show prior art. In this case, Palworld's dev can point to Palworld as the prior art if Nintendo sues them; Nintendo's patent existed after Palworld did. Palworld's dev can also point to a giant mountain of prior art of other games that allow one to throw an object to capture a monster.> that allow one to throw an object to capture a monster Like throwing a net to catch a fish?
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I'm going to buy a switch two, which they usually sell the hardware for close to cost. Then I'm gonna leave it in the box and wait until a mod chip comes out that lets me play every game for free.Isnt it based on similar hardware as the switch 1? Which hasnt been hacked since the launch model.
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They should force Gamefreak to make a better Pokemon game. That would teach Pal World a lesson.Nintendo: But that's haaaaaaard. Me money now.
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Fuck Nintendo. Vote with your wallets and don't buy a Switch 2, get a Steam Deck or other similar portable gaming handheld.Switch 2? More Like "Switch to Steamdeck" ( ☞˙ワ˙)☞
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Isnt it based on similar hardware as the switch 1? Which hasnt been hacked since the launch model.Are you saying the Switch "1" was not hacked?
