Crystalizing some principles:
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@futurebird
My kitchen had cheap vinyl tiles badly stuck on top of an older lino/vinyl floor. The vinyl tiles were both horrible and very damaged. Unfortunately the lino under was also damaged quite badly partly from the glue used for the vinyl tiles.One day I got annoyed with it and just ripped it all up, and underneath were the original (probably, 1920s) dark floortiles, the type that contain asbestos but which are fine as long as you don't go breaking them apart. They look *so much* better!
Amazing recovery. I've worked on many multi-layer floors like that. I did a lot of summer jobs renovating apartments. Maybe that's why I have Opinions(tm) about these things.
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@futurebird I don't know if it counts as durable (I was not there for this conversation) but when my brother was redoing our bathroom he was asked what color he wanted the linoleum to be.
He said purple.
It turned out there was no purple, and frankly there weren't a lot of color choices other than gray.
To this day I wonder why we were asked about color choice
I thought this was due to landlords, but interior design has been VERY bland for a long time now. Even in single family homes where people ought to feel more free to have some colors without freaking about about "resale value"
Unless one is a "flipper" I think all the focus on resale value is a bit silly. And limiting.
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I thought this was due to landlords, but interior design has been VERY bland for a long time now. Even in single family homes where people ought to feel more free to have some colors without freaking about about "resale value"
Unless one is a "flipper" I think all the focus on resale value is a bit silly. And limiting.
@futurebird have you noticed this trend in like, restaurants and fast casual and such that they've got to redo their buildings to look like gray bland office complexes that don't look like they serve food?
Like I have not been to a panera in years partially because I forget they exist, because all our paneras look like they should be law firms or architectural firms or something.
Are we re-creating the giver? Are we recreating the story beat on neopets I didn't follow that took the color out of everyone and everything?
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@futurebird have you noticed this trend in like, restaurants and fast casual and such that they've got to redo their buildings to look like gray bland office complexes that don't look like they serve food?
Like I have not been to a panera in years partially because I forget they exist, because all our paneras look like they should be law firms or architectural firms or something.
Are we re-creating the giver? Are we recreating the story beat on neopets I didn't follow that took the color out of everyone and everything?
It's like in "Never Ending Story" when "The Nothing" came for the world of fairy tales an imagination.
Gray fake wood floor.
Gray boxes.
Maybe a dark brown accent as a tiny "treat" ... it's supposed to be sophisticated I suppose.And if you make no dangerous choices no one can have an opinion about those choices, right?
(well I can)
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In 30 years someone will be saying you need to tear out your "wood effect" planks for ... whatever they are on to next.
I guess not everyone can see that these are the same thing but from different eras. I will take the older one, please. Because real tile, real wood are not on the table in either case at this price point.
@futurebird
We need to replace our Marmoleum floor soon. It’s gotten so rough it doesn’t look clean even when it is. It’s about 20 yrs old.
I looked into vinyl. It’s tougher than Marmoleum. That fake wood was the only way vinyl was sold, though. To get an actually interesting floor, we’ll have to put in Marmoleum again. -
@futurebird
We need to replace our Marmoleum floor soon. It’s gotten so rough it doesn’t look clean even when it is. It’s about 20 yrs old.
I looked into vinyl. It’s tougher than Marmoleum. That fake wood was the only way vinyl was sold, though. To get an actually interesting floor, we’ll have to put in Marmoleum again. -
cork?
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Cork had pretty awful sustainabily and exploitation issues last I checked...
I really wish Marmoleum was tougher. It's pretty and it is pretty much a sustainable product. -
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Cork had pretty awful sustainabily and exploitation issues last I checked...
I really wish Marmoleum was tougher. It's pretty and it is pretty much a sustainable product.Where did you hear it wasn’t sustainable compared to wood and why?
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In 30 years someone will be saying you need to tear out your "wood effect" planks for ... whatever they are on to next.
I guess not everyone can see that these are the same thing but from different eras. I will take the older one, please. Because real tile, real wood are not on the table in either case at this price point.
There is a furniture shop in the Bronx that has always baffled me.
But, recently? I had a revelation.
I was baffled because the stuff in their window is so showy and colorful. It’s just not what I’ve been taught to think of as “good design.”
But m, then, I stepped back and considered their prices, the build quality of the furniture— and in that light it’s not that different than IKEA.
In terms of price or functionality or materials.
It just has a very different design agenda.
