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This educational “logic password” circuit I’m building to see if my students should do it has a 9V AC bridge rectifier in the corner which I find odd— It’s not like providing 5V DC is a big mysterious thing.

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    @futurebird From the classes I had that used these sorts of things, "stick a 9v battery connector into the screw terminal" was easier (and somewhat more portable) than a clean 5v supply, at least in a normal classroom without an overhead ring of multiple outlets over every seat. (My college's electronics lab had that)

    The "9VAC" marking is also somewhat misleading: that rectifier also works for DC input of sufficient voltage (~8-12v should work fine) while also providing "automatic polarity" so you don't need to care about which way the battery is connected. aka "kids can't blow it up by plugging the battery in backwards" which from 'incidents' in my classes is "a rather critical feature" depending on the age and experience of the students.

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    @becomethewaifu Ah the backwards battery makes sense! I saw “AC” and thought “there is no way this is for mains wtf”

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    • 𝓐𝓷𝓭𝔂𝓣𝓲𝓮𝓭𝔂𝓮 𓀤A 𝓐𝓷𝓭𝔂𝓣𝓲𝓮𝓭𝔂𝓮 𓀤

      Have you looked at any of the Raspberry Pi stuff? That would be a lot more current and could teach them a lot more.

      @futurebird

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      @andytiedye I want them to work with logic gates… not code. And see that some problems don’t need a processor or memory to be solved. They do tons of coding of things like that later in the class. This is right after their unit in binary.

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        @dlakelan well a usb charger you can’t plug into the wall just a 9v battery.

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        @futurebird
        Wait it wants you to plug in a 9v battery? And its using an AC bridge rectifier? I guess that could be a polarity protection feature, in case people wire up the battery leads backwards you dont let the magic smoke out of the board.

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          @futurebird
          Wait it wants you to plug in a 9v battery? And its using an AC bridge rectifier? I guess that could be a polarity protection feature, in case people wire up the battery leads backwards you dont let the magic smoke out of the board.

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          @dlakelan yes this seems to be the reason!

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            @andytiedye I want them to work with logic gates… not code. And see that some problems don’t need a processor or memory to be solved. They do tons of coding of things like that later in the class. This is right after their unit in binary.

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            @andytiedye I will not be the teacher responsible for the kid who makes a lamp that turns on when it senses low light levels and the thing needs an OS and internet connection to function! Not on my watch!

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              @andytiedye I will not be the teacher responsible for the kid who makes a lamp that turns on when it senses low light levels and the thing needs an OS and internet connection to function! Not on my watch!

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              @futurebird
              The older I get the closer I am to that guy in engineering fabrication who swears his soldering iron is all the damned IDE he needs.
              @andytiedye

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                @futurebird
                The older I get the closer I am to that guy in engineering fabrication who swears his soldering iron is all the damned IDE he needs.
                @andytiedye

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                @RustedComputing @andytiedye

                We can’t turn on the light because the cloud AI doesn’t agree it’s dark enough to need a light.

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                  @andytiedye I want them to work with logic gates… not code. And see that some problems don’t need a processor or memory to be solved. They do tons of coding of things like that later in the class. This is right after their unit in binary.

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                  @futurebird @andytiedye

                  Have they discovered http://nandgame.com yet? That's a good way to kill an evening or two and come out of it understanding a lot more about how things work on a logic gate level

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                    @andytiedye I will not be the teacher responsible for the kid who makes a lamp that turns on when it senses low light levels and the thing needs an OS and internet connection to function! Not on my watch!

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                    @futurebird @andytiedye

                    Sorry, but the (smart) watch does need an OS and internet connectivity!

                    😂

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                      @futurebird @andytiedye

                      Sorry, but the (smart) watch does need an OS and internet connectivity!

                      😂

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                      @crankylinuxuser @andytiedye
                      Where is the "detention" button on this thing?!? 😞

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                        @futurebird @andytiedye

                        Have they discovered http://nandgame.com yet? That's a good way to kill an evening or two and come out of it understanding a lot more about how things work on a logic gate level

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                        @gbargoud @andytiedye

                        Absolutely! And they love it!

                        Now you wouldn't think a modern child would be impressed by eight lights blinking out binary. But it hits different when YOU made it happen and know why it's working.

                        And it's all just gates-n-switches.

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