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Ubisoft Closes Halifax Studio Just After Employees Unionized

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    Here if over 50% want to form a union its illegal to stop it. I wonder if the USA has that?
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      These employees did exercise their right to unionize, but there's no way to force employers to keep the union. A union just means that you can bargain collectively, and it should theoretically protect employees because what kind of scummy employer wants to fire ALL their employees, right? Turns out Ubisoft IS that scummy.
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      I mean it absolutely is illegal to retaliate against unionizing workers by firing them, that's why they didn't say "we fired them because they unionized". And Canada isn't America, we don't have right to work legislation and you can't generally just fire people en masse without cause out of the blue
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        Rockstar had a similar scandal firing unionising workers last year
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        Yeah, I remember that. They also treat their players like absolute shit in general. But at least Rockstar makes games people enjoy and provides shareholder value. Ubisoft sucks so much they are actively harmful to everyone involved.
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          Here if over 50% want to form a union its illegal to stop it. I wonder if the USA has that?
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          This was in Canada
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            I mean it absolutely is illegal to retaliate against unionizing workers by firing them, that's why they didn't say "we fired them because they unionized". And Canada isn't America, we don't have right to work legislation and you can't generally just fire people en masse without cause out of the blue
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            Except ubisoft is hemorrhaging money so it's an extremely easy sell to say "the studio is not profitable and we're in dire need to cut waste" and indeed can the lot.
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              Except ubisoft is hemorrhaging money so it's an extremely easy sell to say "the studio is not profitable and we're in dire need to cut waste" and indeed can the lot.
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              They can, and they can try to make the case that this is unrelated to unionization and fight that in court. Good luck
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                They can, and they can try to make the case that this is unrelated to unionization and fight that in court. Good luck
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                I mean, I'd bet dollars to donuts Ubisoft would win it handily if it gets to a class action or whatever equivalent. For one, they're basically on the verge of falling over so the economic motivation is a no-brainer. For two, it's a massive multinational company headquartered in France (a country with stronger labour laws than Canada) with plenty of legal advice available on these matters. I highly doubt they'd do it *this* blatantly if they were not confident this is an easy sell, instead of waiting something like 6 months to separate the 2 events enough for plausible deniability. For three, good luck holding a foreign company accountable, in general.
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                  I mean, I'd bet dollars to donuts Ubisoft would win it handily if it gets to a class action or whatever equivalent. For one, they're basically on the verge of falling over so the economic motivation is a no-brainer. For two, it's a massive multinational company headquartered in France (a country with stronger labour laws than Canada) with plenty of legal advice available on these matters. I highly doubt they'd do it *this* blatantly if they were not confident this is an easy sell, instead of waiting something like 6 months to separate the 2 events enough for plausible deniability. For three, good luck holding a foreign company accountable, in general.
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                  Oh they will win it for sure yah
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                    And that message is "Don't ever buy from Ubisoft ever again"
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                    Their games have been reheated bongwater broth for more than a decade now, more predictable than even Sony and far less competent in execution, did you need *more* reasons?
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                      I mean, I'd bet dollars to donuts Ubisoft would win it handily if it gets to a class action or whatever equivalent. For one, they're basically on the verge of falling over so the economic motivation is a no-brainer. For two, it's a massive multinational company headquartered in France (a country with stronger labour laws than Canada) with plenty of legal advice available on these matters. I highly doubt they'd do it *this* blatantly if they were not confident this is an easy sell, instead of waiting something like 6 months to separate the 2 events enough for plausible deniability. For three, good luck holding a foreign company accountable, in general.
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                      > I highly doubt they’d do it this blatantly if they were not confident this is an easy sell I mean, I would have agreed with you, except we've also just recently seen even *more* blatant and indefensible union-busting from Rockstar in the UK, another country with good labour laws, and another country with more than adequate legal resources. I think you're probably right that Ubisoft has sufficient legal cover to win this case, but that's because of the merits of this case, not because a big company from a country with good laws could *never* do something stupidly illegal.
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                        > I highly doubt they’d do it this blatantly if they were not confident this is an easy sell I mean, I would have agreed with you, except we've also just recently seen even *more* blatant and indefensible union-busting from Rockstar in the UK, another country with good labour laws, and another country with more than adequate legal resources. I think you're probably right that Ubisoft has sufficient legal cover to win this case, but that's because of the merits of this case, not because a big company from a country with good laws could *never* do something stupidly illegal.
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                        Very fair lol
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