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The TI-34 is a fairly basic scientific #calculator.

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  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

    I tend to imagine that every feature included on a calculator like the TI-34 had to fight to be there.

    It's a very stripped down calculator and, as an educator I can tell exactly why everything else is there. From little things, like how it won't reduce square roots (this would make teaching the conceptual part of that skill very annoying) to the inclusion of doing stdev for only 35 numbers.

    But the ipart() and fpart() have me stumped!

    I must go deeper!

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    @futurebird Engineers do ipart() and fpart() all the time when we need to truncate (not round) floating point values.

    Doing ipart() and fpart() works on lists and arrays and imaginary numbers too - cool!

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      @futurebird Engineers do ipart() and fpart() all the time when we need to truncate (not round) floating point values.

      Doing ipart() and fpart() works on lists and arrays and imaginary numbers too - cool!

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      @rhempel

      Ok maybe doing it on a list would be worth it?

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        @futurebird Engineers do ipart() and fpart() all the time when we need to truncate (not round) floating point values.

        Doing ipart() and fpart() works on lists and arrays and imaginary numbers too - cool!

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        @rhempel @futurebird In sickness and in health, till engineers do ipart()

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          The TI-34 is a fairly basic scientific #calculator. I’m a big fan because it’s easy to use and not overwhelming.

          I was reading the manual and discovered it has two functions:

          ipart(x)
          fpart(x)

          These return the integer and fraction parts of x.

          ipart(2.34)=2
          fpart(2.34)=.34

          Great! So, uh.. What are these typically used for? Why include them on such a *basic* calculator? #calculators #ticalc #ti34 #matheducation #mathchat

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          @futurebird I'm going to pull a guess straight out of thin air, but I think they might be intended for US Imperial Units use: where there's e.g. feet + inches, or pounds + ounces, etc: you can then perform additional arithmetic on the units "independently" when you can extract integer & fraction

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          • E Matt Panaro

            @futurebird I'm going to pull a guess straight out of thin air, but I think they might be intended for US Imperial Units use: where there's e.g. feet + inches, or pounds + ounces, etc: you can then perform additional arithmetic on the units "independently" when you can extract integer & fraction

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            @eigen

            OMG. This kind of makes sense.

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            • E Matt Panaro

              @futurebird I'm going to pull a guess straight out of thin air, but I think they might be intended for US Imperial Units use: where there's e.g. feet + inches, or pounds + ounces, etc: you can then perform additional arithmetic on the units "independently" when you can extract integer & fraction

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              @eigen@mattstodon.panar.ooo @futurebird@sauropods.win by the way it's not "US Imperial", Imperial units are a different set of units from US Customary

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                @eigen@mattstodon.panar.ooo @futurebird@sauropods.win by the way it's not "US Imperial", Imperial units are a different set of units from US Customary

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                @ielenia @eigen

                it's not "US Imperial"

                yeah.... but is FEELs like that sometimes doesn't it?

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  @su_liam @adardis

                  **has existential crisis**

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                  @futurebird What existential crisis? Just answer “yes.”
                  @su_liam @adardis

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                    @futurebird What existential crisis? Just answer “yes.”
                    @su_liam @adardis

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                    @oscherler @su_liam @adardis

                    So it's like being bisexual??

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      I tend to imagine that every feature included on a calculator like the TI-34 had to fight to be there.

                      It's a very stripped down calculator and, as an educator I can tell exactly why everything else is there. From little things, like how it won't reduce square roots (this would make teaching the conceptual part of that skill very annoying) to the inclusion of doing stdev for only 35 numbers.

                      But the ipart() and fpart() have me stumped!

                      I must go deeper!

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                      @futurebird you need them to compute the continued fraction expression of a number: starting with x0 = x, at each step, you set a_k = ipart(x_k), x_k+1 = 1/fpart(x_k).

                      For example, if you do that for x = π, you get a0 = 3, a1 = 7, and if you stop there, you get the famous approximation of π ≈ 3 + 1/7 = 22/7.

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