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Video games spending by young Americans is dropping sharply, report suggests

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    That’s not the next Xbox I mean, but it’s a glimpse at it. It’s clear that the direction this is going is that Xbox is going to be a Steam competitor. The next Xbox console will be a prebuilt PC. A literal prebuilt PC running windows that can play Steam, PC games and Gamepass at current Series X quality or a little bit better priced somewhere between $700 to $900. Maybe a Series S type performance for $400-500. Build me a PC with similar performance at that price. You can’t. I’m not saying there’s no pitfalls, but if they pull it off they will sell these things like crazy.
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    jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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    It's funny because like 20 years ago or whenever Xbox launched I was like "why don't they capitalize on the fact that they own windows? The platform everyone plays games on. Why are they competing with themselves?" Hypothesis: businesses are run by idiots and people whose contradictory incentives create behavior indistinguishable from idiots.
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      jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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      I said in another thread but I've been unemployed for a while now. Even jobs I'm referred to my old coworkers aren't giving me interviews. If capital wants me to spend money, they have to pay me money first. Until then, fuck them.
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        Depression has me not so interested in playing games anymore. Reading instead. Gaming is losing its magic for me. I’m 36.
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          I love the constant onslaught of articles that are like “people aren’t spending money anymore!!!” Open your damn eyes. We all got smart and refuse to pay $80 (which is now the new forced norm for “AAA” garbage) and are replaying oldies and indies. Hell, I revamped my 3DS and have dumped a ton of games onto it. I can even play some of them online with people again via Pretendo. Like all of the reasons are so obvious why people aren’t dumping money into this industry anymore. Capitalists fucked it all up and put profit over fun. We’re not all dipshits that fall for the constant micro transactions and grifts. I legit don’t give a single shit about any of the new “AAA” games coming out. Give me a call when they’re in the bargain bin years from now.
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          ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
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          People are dumping money still, revenue isn’t shrinking
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            It's funny because like 20 years ago or whenever Xbox launched I was like "why don't they capitalize on the fact that they own windows? The platform everyone plays games on. Why are they competing with themselves?" Hypothesis: businesses are run by idiots and people whose contradictory incentives create behavior indistinguishable from idiots.
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            They were thinking about that back then, various people have said it, but I think they were constrained by costs and technical limitations. Bill Gates certainly wanted Xbox and windows gaming to be a unified platform. I mean look at Valve, they had the Steam Machine ages ago and they flopped, but you can be sure that they will be much popular this time around.
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              This is why work/life balance is so important. I wouldn't ever call myself "well-off" but I don't have kids and my job allows me ample time off to play games and watch movies and shit. It's kind of awesome. I get paid less than I could be, but I don't care about that.
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              > This is why work/life balance is so important. I wouldn’t ever call myself “well-off” but I don’t have kids and my job allows me ample time off to play games and watch movies and shit. Neither do they! They aren't workaholics, they're home bodies that work the absolute least they can! It's just that the workplaces are shit. One went back to mandated RTO for *no reason* even though much of the work is overseas at odd hours. The companies literally just trying to make people miserable so they quit without severence. The other is work-from-home, but with enough pointless meetings and complete workplace dysfunction to eat energy. And these seem like well above average jobs.
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                > This is why work/life balance is so important. I wouldn’t ever call myself “well-off” but I don’t have kids and my job allows me ample time off to play games and watch movies and shit. Neither do they! They aren't workaholics, they're home bodies that work the absolute least they can! It's just that the workplaces are shit. One went back to mandated RTO for *no reason* even though much of the work is overseas at odd hours. The companies literally just trying to make people miserable so they quit without severence. The other is work-from-home, but with enough pointless meetings and complete workplace dysfunction to eat energy. And these seem like well above average jobs.
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                prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                All I can say is: unionize. My position is union (and has been for a very long time so its ingrained into the culture there), and it's difficult to even comprehend the number of ways it has improved working conditions. Literally invaluable.
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                  They were thinking about that back then, various people have said it, but I think they were constrained by costs and technical limitations. Bill Gates certainly wanted Xbox and windows gaming to be a unified platform. I mean look at Valve, they had the Steam Machine ages ago and they flopped, but you can be sure that they will be much popular this time around.
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                  jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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                  True, I'm definitely doing arm chair analysis. If I was in charge, I probably wouldn't have entered the console market at all. I'd probably have tried to build steam. That had to be easier if you own the OS, too. On the other hand, they utterly fucked up "Games For Windows! Live" or whatever it was called.
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                    True, I'm definitely doing arm chair analysis. If I was in charge, I probably wouldn't have entered the console market at all. I'd probably have tried to build steam. That had to be easier if you own the OS, too. On the other hand, they utterly fucked up "Games For Windows! Live" or whatever it was called.
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                    Yep they definitely missed the boat on that one. Which is why I think they are so keen on turning Xbox into a platform. With how PC hardware is going, they have a chance to take back some market from Valve and maybe convert people from Playstation as well. The risk here is that they can’t sell the “consoles” at a loss, so they will be undercut by Sony by a significant amount of money. But their answer to that is probably “it doesn’t matter, everything is an Xbox now, the console is for the enthusiast market”. Bold strategy, we’ll see if they can pull it off.
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                      I am playing a new character in Elder Scrolls 3 - Morrowind right now. The modding community for that game is so good, with OpenMW (a open source engine rebuild) and the tool "umo" it was so easy to install a curated mod list that not only upscaled the graphics but also extended the game with not only a huge part of the Morrowind mainland but also parts of cyrodiil and Skyrim. So much new content and places to explore now!
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                      rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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                      You wouldnt happen to be on linux would you?
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                        The single player is pretty good in that. It's definitely worth trying out. Being in the giant mech doesn't feel any different than not being in it though. That's my only complaint.
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                        rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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                        I remember at the time titanfall came out, the mechs moving like a human was a selling point. I do agree though it is odd to experience when its not a novelty.
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                          - overpriced games - fully-priced games with microtransactions and day 1 DLCs. - overpriced hardware - games released broken, fixed later - Invasive DRM - Always-online requirements - annoying ads/microtransactions - invasive telemetry - third party launchers - third party accounts - Publishers intentionally misleading reviewers - False/misleading marketing from GPU OEMs What else am I missing?
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                          Not fixed later, fixed *maybe*.
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                            Can’t wait till the indie wave wakes up the realization that there is a goldmine of 90s games that were incredible. Star control 2 for one could probably be mistaken for a new indie hit nowadays.
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                              I love the constant onslaught of articles that are like “people aren’t spending money anymore!!!” Open your damn eyes. We all got smart and refuse to pay $80 (which is now the new forced norm for “AAA” garbage) and are replaying oldies and indies. Hell, I revamped my 3DS and have dumped a ton of games onto it. I can even play some of them online with people again via Pretendo. Like all of the reasons are so obvious why people aren’t dumping money into this industry anymore. Capitalists fucked it all up and put profit over fun. We’re not all dipshits that fall for the constant micro transactions and grifts. I legit don’t give a single shit about any of the new “AAA” games coming out. Give me a call when they’re in the bargain bin years from now.
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                              > Give me a call when they’re in the bargain bin years from now. If they're still functional, thankfully there's the Stop Killing Games movement.
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                                >for barely 40 USD of content This is completely relative, and different for everyone... But I have a hard time backing up statements like this given that it costs nearly $20 to go to the movie theater and watch a 90 minute movie. If I can get 40-150 hours from a $70 game... That's really not that bad. I think we have been a little bit spoiled (that isn't to say that video game publishers aren't greedy corporations that over charge to increase their profit margins, of course they do and fuck them for it).
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                                Nope. All video games are bad, overpriced etc. same with movies as tv shows. And we all have the right to the creative work of others. So pirate everything. That’ll fix it! /s
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                                  > Give me a call when they’re in the bargain bin years from now. If they're still functional, thankfully there's the Stop Killing Games movement.
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                                  I love the movement that has gotten. I’m cheering for it.
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                                    People are dumping money still, revenue isn’t shrinking
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                                    Yeah, I think the decline is a drop in a bucket considering. I know plenty of people still buying the Switch 2 etc. on launch day.
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                                      poke@sh.itjust.works
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                                      The hobby is getting more expensive while income left over after cost of living is going down. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
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                                        Can’t wait till the indie wave wakes up the realization that there is a goldmine of 90s games that were incredible. Star control 2 for one could probably be mistaken for a new indie hit nowadays.
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                                        I've been playing X-Wing. The mad lads who built XWVM have essentially modernized the game and got it working on and with modern hardware, while strictly preserving its feel. It's amazing.
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                                          Yep, I know a lot of people who would balk at buying games but have no qualms dropping more then 100$ per month on gacha games.
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                                          We desperately need to ban all forms of real money gambling in games, or at least prevent kids from accessing it.
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