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Video games spending by young Americans is dropping sharply, report suggests

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    They were thinking about that back then, various people have said it, but I think they were constrained by costs and technical limitations. Bill Gates certainly wanted Xbox and windows gaming to be a unified platform. I mean look at Valve, they had the Steam Machine ages ago and they flopped, but you can be sure that they will be much popular this time around.
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    True, I'm definitely doing arm chair analysis. If I was in charge, I probably wouldn't have entered the console market at all. I'd probably have tried to build steam. That had to be easier if you own the OS, too. On the other hand, they utterly fucked up "Games For Windows! Live" or whatever it was called.
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      True, I'm definitely doing arm chair analysis. If I was in charge, I probably wouldn't have entered the console market at all. I'd probably have tried to build steam. That had to be easier if you own the OS, too. On the other hand, they utterly fucked up "Games For Windows! Live" or whatever it was called.
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      Yep they definitely missed the boat on that one. Which is why I think they are so keen on turning Xbox into a platform. With how PC hardware is going, they have a chance to take back some market from Valve and maybe convert people from Playstation as well. The risk here is that they can’t sell the “consoles” at a loss, so they will be undercut by Sony by a significant amount of money. But their answer to that is probably “it doesn’t matter, everything is an Xbox now, the console is for the enthusiast market”. Bold strategy, we’ll see if they can pull it off.
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        I am playing a new character in Elder Scrolls 3 - Morrowind right now. The modding community for that game is so good, with OpenMW (a open source engine rebuild) and the tool "umo" it was so easy to install a curated mod list that not only upscaled the graphics but also extended the game with not only a huge part of the Morrowind mainland but also parts of cyrodiil and Skyrim. So much new content and places to explore now!
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        You wouldnt happen to be on linux would you?
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          The single player is pretty good in that. It's definitely worth trying out. Being in the giant mech doesn't feel any different than not being in it though. That's my only complaint.
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          rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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          I remember at the time titanfall came out, the mechs moving like a human was a selling point. I do agree though it is odd to experience when its not a novelty.
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            - overpriced games - fully-priced games with microtransactions and day 1 DLCs. - overpriced hardware - games released broken, fixed later - Invasive DRM - Always-online requirements - annoying ads/microtransactions - invasive telemetry - third party launchers - third party accounts - Publishers intentionally misleading reviewers - False/misleading marketing from GPU OEMs What else am I missing?
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            Not fixed later, fixed *maybe*.
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              Can’t wait till the indie wave wakes up the realization that there is a goldmine of 90s games that were incredible. Star control 2 for one could probably be mistaken for a new indie hit nowadays.
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                I love the constant onslaught of articles that are like “people aren’t spending money anymore!!!” Open your damn eyes. We all got smart and refuse to pay $80 (which is now the new forced norm for “AAA” garbage) and are replaying oldies and indies. Hell, I revamped my 3DS and have dumped a ton of games onto it. I can even play some of them online with people again via Pretendo. Like all of the reasons are so obvious why people aren’t dumping money into this industry anymore. Capitalists fucked it all up and put profit over fun. We’re not all dipshits that fall for the constant micro transactions and grifts. I legit don’t give a single shit about any of the new “AAA” games coming out. Give me a call when they’re in the bargain bin years from now.
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                > Give me a call when they’re in the bargain bin years from now. If they're still functional, thankfully there's the Stop Killing Games movement.
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                  >for barely 40 USD of content This is completely relative, and different for everyone... But I have a hard time backing up statements like this given that it costs nearly $20 to go to the movie theater and watch a 90 minute movie. If I can get 40-150 hours from a $70 game... That's really not that bad. I think we have been a little bit spoiled (that isn't to say that video game publishers aren't greedy corporations that over charge to increase their profit margins, of course they do and fuck them for it).
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                  Nope. All video games are bad, overpriced etc. same with movies as tv shows. And we all have the right to the creative work of others. So pirate everything. That’ll fix it! /s
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                    > Give me a call when they’re in the bargain bin years from now. If they're still functional, thankfully there's the Stop Killing Games movement.
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                    I love the movement that has gotten. I’m cheering for it.
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                      People are dumping money still, revenue isn’t shrinking
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                      Yeah, I think the decline is a drop in a bucket considering. I know plenty of people still buying the Switch 2 etc. on launch day.
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                        poke@sh.itjust.works
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                        The hobby is getting more expensive while income left over after cost of living is going down. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
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                          Can’t wait till the indie wave wakes up the realization that there is a goldmine of 90s games that were incredible. Star control 2 for one could probably be mistaken for a new indie hit nowadays.
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                          I've been playing X-Wing. The mad lads who built XWVM have essentially modernized the game and got it working on and with modern hardware, while strictly preserving its feel. It's amazing.
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                            Yep, I know a lot of people who would balk at buying games but have no qualms dropping more then 100$ per month on gacha games.
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                            We desperately need to ban all forms of real money gambling in games, or at least prevent kids from accessing it.
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                              Or even better, play an old game that you still haven't played. I can get titanfall 2 for the price of a coffee and play it for the first time if I'm craving for a good AAA fps.
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                              Oh shiiiit, do that and come back and talk to us when you get to the time travel level. Are we just in the phase of the medium where technology isn't the defining quality. It would be slightly weird to try to stay at the forefront of, say, novels without any regard for reading classics. Why shouldn't games be the same?
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                                That and broad, massive economic collapse in basicallt every other sector, at least in the US.
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                                ADP forecasting sucks. Actual jobs report was a beat, +140k jobs and unemployment down a shade. I agree with you on the themes but it doesn't help to cherry pick data.
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                                  > because of our kleptogeriocracy Because of our what?
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                                  Old people stealing
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                                    I love the constant onslaught of articles that are like “people aren’t spending money anymore!!!” Open your damn eyes. We all got smart and refuse to pay $80 (which is now the new forced norm for “AAA” garbage) and are replaying oldies and indies. Hell, I revamped my 3DS and have dumped a ton of games onto it. I can even play some of them online with people again via Pretendo. Like all of the reasons are so obvious why people aren’t dumping money into this industry anymore. Capitalists fucked it all up and put profit over fun. We’re not all dipshits that fall for the constant micro transactions and grifts. I legit don’t give a single shit about any of the new “AAA” games coming out. Give me a call when they’re in the bargain bin years from now.
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                                    Exactly this. The new game cycle these days is: - Game is announced with shiny video showing all sorts of cool stuff. - Release date is announced. - Game is delayed. - Reviewers/early access people get it, turns out it has none of the cool stuff form the announcement video. - Game is delayed again. - Game finally comes out, with 3 different tiers that are like $80, $100 and $120 CAD depending on if you want the version of the game that's 30%, 40% or 50% complete. - Game doesn't work. - After about two years and 10 DLC packs you have about 80% of the functional game, the other 20% being stuff they were supposed to add but just never bothered, what are you gonna do about it? By this point you no longer care about the game anyway. - Sequel is announced with shiny video showing all sorts of cool stuff, devs promise they've fixed all the broken stuff this time for real. - Company gets bought by EA or Epic, all devs are replaced. - Game is delayed. Like genuinely who wants to bother with that nonsense anymore TBH.
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                                      ADP forecasting sucks. Actual jobs report was a beat, +140k jobs and unemployment down a shade. I agree with you on the themes but it doesn't help to cherry pick data.
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                                      The BLS jobs **estimate** report is utterly garbage data. Go look back over the last year or two. Look at how many times, and how many jobs they revised down from the report 1 or 2 months prior. All the idiots that watch Jim Cramer for financial advice are the same idiots that never bother to follow up on the BLS revisions. Also, the BLS jobs **estimate** is an **estimate** that goes through a whole bunch of layers of dependcy on other statistics like estimated populations growth. Meanwhile the ADP is much more directly based on actual payrolls. You should maybe learn how to actually compare the methodologies behind various sources of data before you accuse someone of cherry picking.
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                                        Maybe they can ask their AI to inspect the size of everyone's nose? Maybe that's the trick to get us to buy more AI chips in our games and TVs and phones and cars and in our fruit probably. There's gotta be AI in our food somewhere.
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                                          Also competition, and I'm not actually talking about indie games, although that's helping. Competition with older games. Why in the world would someone pay $80 for a mediocre new game when they could replay a classic hit that they haven't played in few years? When was the last time you played the witcher 3, or the mass effect trilogy? Would you rather replay one of those, or pay $80 for the new assassin's creed?
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                                          I'm current stuck in a long term cycle of mainly Project Zomboid, Factorio, Valheim, Oxygen Not Included, The Lone Dark and Rimworld, were when I'm fed up of playing the last of them, it's been long enough since I played the first one that it's once interesting to play it. Even when I manage to be fed up with playing all of them at any one point, I still have other progression games with complex emergent gameplay (often but not always games which have algorithmically generated game areas) like Kenshi. 7 Days to Die or OpenTTD that pull me in and if that fails, I can always pick up one of the old open world roleplay jewels such as Skyrim and play that. I've barelly tried anything else in the last couple of years and of those only Oxygen Not Include was the only one with any lasting power and I picked that one years ago. It's not even because I can't afford it (though out of principl I refuse to pay more than €20 for a game) - whenever I try an AAA game nowadays (always games that came out years ago) it's almost invariably an inferior experience that either feels too constrained or doesn't have enough gameplay variety and complexity to be fun for long.
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